Oh my goodness Zigzag, I cant imagine life here without you, so glad you were able to sign up afterall. Not sure why counties are not renewing, Kent didn't a while back. They used to ask me if I used the forum and obviously said I did and why, but perhaps many did not, and to be honest, Kent didn't really sell it to us Managers in the first place, I just became curious one evening, strangely enough the same day as Sunnyday did! I'm just going to put it out there that Kent were not keen on the Kentish community discussing their management style - maybe that's why they didn't renew.