BroadOaks Posted August 27, 2015 Author Posted August 27, 2015 Mundia - my issue is that none of those values are 'Fundamentally British'. If it suggested we promote something inherent in our culture (as your Zambian quote seems to) then that would be fine, it is of course important to remember our cultural identity and traditions. However, I can think of none (and those four are clearly not) 'fundamentally [and exclusively] British values' that are appropriate for a curriculum. It therefore appears to be just an attempt at making the country more nationalist, which leads to racism. Leading to this discussion is perhaps not a bad thing, but there are other potential negative consequences that I deem more important. Again though, 'British Culture' isn't actually being promoted, or this would be a different discussion. Does it really matter anyway? Do we have to differentiate and segregate ourselves? I totally agree. For me it seems most of the media outlets want to cause separation and divide "groups" of people. This is also true of what the government seem to want to achieve. Basically divide and conquer strategies to reduce the threat of large groups of people from having the same values, British or not! Yes there are many variants of people in the world but at the end of the day we are all people and equal and should ideally all have the same values.. to be happy and to live a great life. Unfortunately i feel greed spoils this world and there will always be greedy people So after saying this, it is what it is and we have to deal with it.. 1 Quote
LKeyteach Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 OK! Does anyone know what you do if you suspect Radicalisation. It's not that I do or expect to. But when reviewng one's safeguarding policy do we include the referral procedure? The Prevent Duty guidance says "School staff and childcare providers should understand when it is appropriate to make a referral to the Channel programme. Channel is a programme which focuses on providing support at an early stage to people who are identified as being vulnerable to being drawn into terrorism. It provides a mechanism for schools to make referrals if they are concerned that an individual might be vulnerable to radicalisation. An individual‟s engagement with the programme is entirely voluntary at all stages." Well I have looked at Channel Programme and am just simply looking for a phone number or email but it is too wordy for me! Quote
Wildflowers Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 This what I put in our policy, which I hope is enough: If we have any concerns that an individual may be vulnerable to being drawn into and exploited by violent and extreme ideologies, we will contact our local authority Prevent Coordinator for guidance on how to respond appropriately. We will work in partnership with Prevent Co-ordinators, Channel Police Practitioners and the Local Safeguarding Children Board (LSCB). 5 Quote
Wildflowers Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) What I sent before was based on this document: The Prevent Strategy and the Channel Programme in FE Colleges.pdf Where I read: "For referrals to Channel or for more information around the process, in the first instance contact your local authority Prevent Coordinator." This document Prevent duty.pdf has this guidance: What to do if you have a concern If a member of staff in a school has a concern about a particular pupil they should follow the school’s normal safeguarding procedures, including discussing with the school’s designated safeguarding lead, and where deemed necessary, with children’s social care. In Prevent priority areas, the local authority will have a Prevent lead who can also provide support. You can also contact your local police force or dial 101 (the non-emergency number). They can talk to you in confidence about your concerns and help you gain access to support and advice. The Department for Education has dedicated a telephone helpline (020 7340 7264) to enable staff and governors to raise concerns relating to extremism directly. Concerns can also be raised by email to counter.extremism@education.gsi.gov.uk. Please note that the helpline is not intended for use in emergency situations, such as a child being at immediate risk of harm or a security incident, in which case the normal emergency procedures should be followed. Edited August 27, 2015 by Wildflowers Quote
LKeyteach Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Wildflowers thank you so much. Policy amended. Quote
finleysmaid Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 now you've really got me worried wildflower...I suspect that my borough has NO prevent coordinator....however we are on the border of two other counties ...one of which is a high risk area! as I am not on their systems we get no information from them...but take loads of children from their lea. Think I may have to send a message to Social services in their borough and get some advice! Quote
Froglet Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 Finleysmaid I'm not near my notes at the moment but I think our training said you can find details of Prevent contacts on your local police website - have a look. I'll check it out properly later but my spare room (where my training things are) is in a state of 'worse before it gets better ' sorting at the moment - it may take a while! Quote
blondie Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 so where did you add this to your policies and did you have a separate prevent policy - I am so confused about all this now. Quote
Mouseketeer Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 you and me both Blondie I haven't even looked at this yet Quote
finleysmaid Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 Thanks will go and check that out.....I too am rather confused if it wasn't for this site I would not know anything about this....have had no information from anyone! is this because they don't feel it really applies to us? ...it seemed to me when I read the original info that it just fitted in with our safeguarding policy...now im thinking there maybe more! Quote
LKeyteach Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 I just added bits to safeguarding and included the contact information to it also. "The ******* follows a procedure to safeguard children based on Statutory Framework for the Early Years Foundation Stage Surrey Safeguarding Children Board (SSCB) Manual of child protection guidelines What to do if you’re worried a child is being abused – summary ‘Work together to safeguard children’ programme Prevent Duty All Staff are trained to react immediately to any allegation or suspicion of any matter relating to safeguarding including those outlined in the Prevent Duty." Think I may have made mention of it in another policy but sorry I can't remember which. I have now turned my attention away from policies so that I can be ready for next week. Policies are being proof read. When done I'll post on here incase it of any use. 2 Quote
Wildflowers Posted August 28, 2015 Posted August 28, 2015 I've put how we promote British values as part of on our text on how we promote diversity, within the sectionon our educational provision. How to respond to concerns about any child being drawn into extremism is under safe-guarding. 1 Quote
MegaMum Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 My mind is spinning with all this! Have you all printed off the Prevent Duty document and if so, are you putting it with your policies? There seems to be so many documents to read or print at the moment, I feel bombarded! Quote
Wildflowers Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 [...] Have you all printed off the Prevent Duty document and if so, are you putting it with your policies? [...] I don't see that being necessary. I read it and picked out what we need. Quote
MegaMum Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 Ok. Thanks Wildflowers. Completely off topic but how did you put my text in the box and add it to your reply? Quote
SueJ Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 I have put a bit in the welcome info for parents Parent welcome extract: Prevent Duty Our setting has a duty under the law to help prevent the radicalisation of children and/or children being exposed to extreme views. Prevent Duty Guidance defines radicalisation as being the act or process of making a person more radical or favouring of extreme or fundamental changes in political, economic or social conditions, institutions or habits of the mind. This guidance defines extremism as the holding of extreme political or religious views. As part of our prevent duty: We offer a broad and balanced curriculum that promotes respect, tolerance and diversity. We encourage children to share their views and (at a developmentally appropriate level) recognise that they are entitled to have their own different beliefs which should not be used to influence others. We embed children’s Personal, Social and Emotional development across our curriculum and endeavour to equip children with confidence, self-belief, respect and tolerance. We set high standards and expectations and enthuse and motivate children to aspire to do their very best. We supervise children at all times if they use the internet in the setting. We support children in developing strategies to seek adult support if they are upset or concerned about anything that they may see on the internet or at other times. I have also put a bit in the employee handbook so that it is considered to be gross misconduct if staff try to radicalise or promote extremism. Employee handbook extract Prevent Duty Our setting has a duty under the law to help prevent the radicalisation of children and adults and/or children and adults being exposed to extreme views. Prevent Duty Guidance defines radicalisation as being the act or process of making a person more radical or favouring of extreme or fundamental changes in political, economic or social conditions, institutions or habits of the mind. This guidance defines extremism as the holding of extreme political or religious views. As part of our prevent duty all staff are expected to uphold and promote the fundamental principles of British values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and mutual respect, and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs. Whilst employees are entitled to have their own different beliefs these must not be used to influence others. Employees have an obligation to report any concerns relating to radicalisation or extremism of children and/or adults and these should be communicated using the line management or whistleblowing arrangements. Any attempt by an employee to radicalise children and/or adults or expose them to extremist views will be deemed to be an act of gross misconduct and in the case of children a wilful breach of safeguarding and child protection responsibilities and will be dealt with accordingly. I am just going to add extremism/radicalisation to safeguarding policy and hope that that is sufficient 8 Quote
Rafa Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 so where did you add this to your policies and did you have a separate prevent policy - I am so confused about all this now. You and me too! I have just printed off the mini Prevent guide from the Psla and that will go in my policy folder. Not enough? too bad...... 1 Quote
Guest Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 Thank you all we are well overdue our inspection ....so presume we will be one of the first :mellow: Quote
MegaMum Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 Phew.... Prevent Duty policy now complete and printed! Thank you to everyone on here as I have taken a little bit of this and a little bit of that and now have a policy. Now I need to update the Safeguarding one....... Bank Holiday? What's that? 1 Quote
Wildflowers Posted August 29, 2015 Posted August 29, 2015 [...] Completely off topic but how did you put my text in the box and add it to your reply? You see... I did it again! I press 'quote' and delete the text that isn't relevant to what I'm replying to, replacing it with [...], to make the post shorter. 1 Quote
sunnyday Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 SueJ aka dragon lady! Thanks so much for sharing your work - have to confess that I haven't done much about this except a good bit of info gathering - thanks to this forum :1b 1 Quote
Mouseketeer Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 Nor me Sunnyday......I'm working on the theory that no one would have expected us to yet as we're closed for Summer Holidays lolololol.... 2 Quote
sunnyday Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 Nor me Sunnyday......I'm working on the theory that no one would have expected us to yet as we're closed for Summer Holidays lolololol.... Absolutely! That's why I haven't updated 'policies' or 'SEF' - who could possibly expect me to have done that whilst we are closed :rolleyes: 2 Quote
eyfs1966 Posted August 30, 2015 Posted August 30, 2015 Absolutely! That's why I haven't updated 'policies' or 'SEF' - who could possibly expect me to have done that whilst we are closed :rolleyes: hmmmm....let me think now, isn't all that the job of the "magic fairies"? I'm sure that's what the parents must think as they always seem terribly surprised to hear that we do actually work during the "holidays"! 3 Quote
thumperrabbit Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 Nor me Sunnyday......I'm working on the theory that no one would have expected us to yet as we're closed for Summer Holidays lolololol.... Beware Mouse; but I've already seen settings (albeit full time nurseries) pulled up on not having a awareness & policy on Prevent - we are due training in our area in mid September in this area Quote
finleysmaid Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 what about a statement in your policies saying we are aware of our duties under the prevent guidelines and will seek advice from our child protection services if we have any concerns. A new policy will be drawn up following training on the xx of September! 3 Quote
Panders Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 I think this is fab and it says 'sharing very much encouraged' on the bottom of each page...so I am http://www.mbktraining.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/FBVs-in-EYFS.pdf excellent sharing practice Mousie thank you, will help so much with staff return to work Quote
Mouseketeer Posted August 31, 2015 Posted August 31, 2015 Stick it notes on policies will be in place for now, Only planning on adding statements to existing and I have to have something to do when I get back to work ;-p I have prepared a sheet from above link and given to all staff. ( if anyone wants it ) I did the 'PD' training link...and printed certificate ..though to be honest it was a case of clicking next, next....print, you wouldn't even have needed to read it, and could print as many in diff names as you'd wanted to...I at least expected a test .....not found any proper PD training in area yet, in fact our LA training is pretty non-existent for anything these days and lack of training is my biggest ofsted worry, I have questioned our advisor about it and just get told they are looking at it, many of our once county trainers offer private training now but at extortionate charges Staff and committee have all been emailed links for PD, FBV, CIF, Safeguard inspection ofsted docs - printed email as proof all sent, will get to sign receipt on return...though prob a bit like leading the horse to water 1 Quote
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