Guest sn0wdr0p Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 Wow what a simple idea. I was getting in a bit of a muddle trying to decide how to tackle this. Thank you so much. Going to download the cards tomorrow.
woodlands1997 Posted November 21, 2014 Author Posted November 21, 2014 I've laminated some and then thought I'll just write on them with whiteboard pen then if we change menu can just rub off and start again :-) I found them on the Internet - they seem quite manageable at least! 1
lynned55 Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 Thank you- so not as bad as I first thought. However as I havent had the slightest bit of info on this from anyone, then I will hold fire until I do.
Mouseketeer Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 Thanks woodlands Maybe I could get away with something like that saying 'today's snack may contain.....', tick the lot and laminate, display for parents to easily see, ( a task in itself) and if they suddenly think 'oh I didn't tell them on the registration form that my child is allergic to that' they could mention it
Wildflowers Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 Are we required to display a list to parents at the end of each session which allergens have been in the food served? Is it not sufficient by law not to serve foods containing an allergen to which a child is allergic?
woodlands1997 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Posted November 22, 2014 From what I can gather windflowers you don't have to display, it just needs to be available if they ask, I'm not going to display these, just keep them in the kitchen!
Wildflowers Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 So we must tick a list of allergens in the food every day, in case a parent asks? Even if we know what allergies our children have?
finleysmaid Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 the legislation says we have a duty of care to protect children who may not be able to decide for themselves. We already gather information from parents but we buy food from supermarkets not from suppliers so they do not currently have to supply us with all the information. Notification would need to be done before the food was provided . I am wondering if the best option might not be to laminate the labels and put them on a 'key ring' available for the parents to access. I would need to remember to add anything extra of course (like when we have garlic bread). We give out birthday treats at the door so then that's up to the parents. Charitable events are not needed to be covered so that's not too bad either. 1
MegaMum Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 Phew! Thank you so much Woodlands1997 - that means we will continue to provide snack as I wasn't going to bother with all the hassle of more paper work.
woodlands1997 Posted November 22, 2014 Author Posted November 22, 2014 Do you make meals wildflowers? If you are giving something straight from the packet, breadsticks, biscuits, cheese, cereal etc that's fine as you can just refer to the packet straight away to tell them. If you've made something eg spaghetti bolognese then do one of these cards as there's lots of ingredients in there so wouldn't be as easy to refer to all the packets! 1
Wildflowers Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 We have the same menu every week, with different side vegetables. If providing anything extra or different, we check the ingredients. What I will do is to add a sheet to our Health and Safety Folder where the dishes and the allergens they contain are listed, e.g. Buttered bread: gluten, lactose. Another list to write...
Wildflowers Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 Don't assume that your meals is sulphur dioxide free just because you don't serve wine. It is used as a preservative for some dried fruits, e.g. to keep apricots look yellow.
Wildflowers Posted November 22, 2014 Posted November 22, 2014 Poster for menus, also from food.gov.uk: allergen-chart.doc 1
finleysmaid Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 OK all done!!! fortunately i have a husband who works with food so he's up to date with all the info! we only provide snacks so not too bad just need to be careful if i'm being spontaneous ! 2
starsdance Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 I emailed my inclusion officer as I have no idea who else to contact and she has come back to me saying: 'I haven’t heard anything about this, if it was a requirement for Early Years settings we would generally be informed.' Well that's me none the wiser then........ Toddles off the phone somebody else who might be able to help me... :rolleyes:
Wildflowers Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 It applies to "institutional caterers, such as schools", so would include nurseries.
louby loo Posted December 1, 2014 Posted December 1, 2014 Just bumping the thread for those who missed it. Lots of info on here. 1
Blondie28143 Posted December 2, 2014 Posted December 2, 2014 Oh you super super people!!! Thanks so much for the links. Another job made easier! Fab! One question though, I'm unsure if you have to keep the evidence for that day/week so is laminating and wiping off an option? I'd much rather do that but if as suggested the evidence is needed to ascertain food poisoning etc, you wouldn't be able to. What do you think? We are on site of a school who provide our hot lunches. The cook there is on training for this today. Hopefully she will be able to clarify. If I find anything useful out, I will post!
eyfs1966 Posted December 2, 2014 Posted December 2, 2014 Does anyone have any good ideas on how to manage the more ad hoc events, such as birthdays and parties where parents provide food for consumption on our premises? This is the bit that concerns me..listing allergens for those events will be a nightmare! 1
sunnyday Posted December 2, 2014 Posted December 2, 2014 Does anyone have any good ideas on how to manage the more ad hoc events, such as birthdays and parties where parents provide food for consumption on our premises? This is the bit that concerns me..listing allergens for those events will be a nightmare! See finleysmaid's post in other thread (can't do the whole link thingy - sorry) looks like we should all be OK for our Christmas bashes
Poohshouse Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 I emailed our local environmental health about this and explained our procedures, she forwarded it to trading standards and all were happy. We currently cross reference a list of all allergies we have against ingredients and two staff members sign off on it each day. I have huge concerns about having preprepared lists, as ingredients change on packets frequently. Only this week soya appeared in something that we have every month. I am concerned the lists will be out of date the day after they are written. I think I will use the check lists but complete in our usual way. 1
Panders Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 Well thought I might just take a look, have a think, try and standardise what snacks we give the children, cut down on variety etc. Started looking at labels - such tiny tiny printing on some, then quite by accident I googled Kings Mill bread ingredients and Tesco's site came up with all the information on it - able to copy and paste into my document (ha,ha, ha) very pleased with myself, did the same for the rest of my snack items - Rock and Roll Tescos 2
louby loo Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 That's my line of thinking Pandas. I am going to select 5/6 snack items, find the info then stick with them. I shall 'mass buy' and double check packaging each time. I am glad we only provide snacks though. Cooking- we shall put at an advance sheet with ingredients listed.
Carol Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 I have just done some free online training regarding food allergies via the Food Standards Agency. http://allergytraining.food.gov.uk/english/ 1
bubblejack Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Thanks for the link Carol will take a look later. Just wondering if its easier just to give fruit to the children. 1
Panders Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Thanks for the link Carol will take a look later. Just wondering if its easier just to give fruit to the children. Obviously that's a great option, but some of ours just won't eat fruit, but the way I did it it was done in about 15 minutes. I will put a copy in with the registration pack I send out by e mail and I keep a hard copy at work in the kitchen so if any parent asks I can show them. I looked at what we buy the most of because we know it's popular and on the Tescos website you can copy and paste the ingredients into your document, for our work information I also cut and paste the EU Legislation it referred to.
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