SazzJ Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 Can I ask church/community hall users what rent you pay per term or month please? Seems to be an issue all of a sudden with our church despite a letter in January saying they weren't increasing it but letter last weekend mentions the fact we don't pay full rent 4 times. We currently pay £275 a month, £1100 per term. I have had no say in the rent nor have they approached us to see what we can afford but just want an idea so I can approach them and come to some agreement with them Quote
Wildflowers Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 £580 per month (£29 per day, including electricity), until 3.30 pm. The hall we use is very small. Quote
klc106 Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 £576 per month (£24 a day for half days and £48 for full days). Our hall is very small too. Quote
Inge Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) Also, you will really need to find out what they charge other hall users when they hire the hall.. this will be how they decide on your rent and if give a discount . Ours was always lower that the hourly rate they charged others.. as we were a charity and a guaranteed income.. may also depend on what services are included... we had to clean ourselves, supply all materials for that, no phone line, we had one installed just for our use (before mobiles but then the signal was really bad in the hall for them ) , gas and electric were included... but with the costs of these always increasing they too have to cover their costs.. Edited March 22, 2014 by Inge Quote
Helenee Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 £9.50 an hour and that is lower than the other users. It's normally about £1500 a month. Quote
Guest sn0wdr0p Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 £1500 per year - yes you read it right. We also have sole use of the premises. The hall was going to rack and ruin so as there was not enough out of school provision I received a capital grant to do it up. I have a ten year lease with the diocese and I have to maintain and upkeep the premises and surrounding land. The only proviso is that the churchgoers have use of the car park for services on a Saturday and Sunday. In honesty I have ploughed an awful lot of my own money improving the premises bit by bit each year and all spare cash has been used to do it so it maybe isn't quite the bargain it seems. Some of that is down to me though as I have made a lot of changes to accomodate a nursery as just running an out of school service was not sustainable once I pay the utilities etc. Looks like this year - finally - I can start paying myself as the nursery provision is taking off. Very lucky to have a husband who can see my vision and afford (just) to support the family. Quote
Rea Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 £28 per session so monthly rate changes, but around £550 at the moment. Quote
Mouseketeer Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 OMG !!!!! that's outrageous eyfs .......thats approx 350 a week , how on earth do you sustain that , we moved out a couple of years ago, but was only paying 4800 for year and that was 5 full days, term time, all utilities and cleaning.....do they have gold plated taps Quote
eyfs1966 Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 no gold plated taps, but the normal inadequate heating, mice, no cleaning, pita vicar......but it is London.....and we are going to lose our premises!!!!!!! Quote
thumperrabbit Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 £20 a morning for us 9am - 1pm We do clean the hall and toilets after each session (and each morning before we start :-( ) and layout some furniture for next users as well. Quote
SazzJ Posted March 23, 2014 Author Posted March 23, 2014 We do get a discount from others I know. We have use of a small hall and a kitchen area. We do have access to a large hall at present too but thinks that will change with the renovations. I actually think the fact we are no longer a charity is what is causing us major issues. However it's costing us £1300 to deal with the ongoing mouse problem that has been ongoing for 4 years and that I was told to deal with myself! Quote
Cait Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 £1500 per term, sole use of building and we pay all utilities Quote
lashes2508 Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 We pay £600 a term , very large hall plus other rooms we can use. we keep garden maintained as it is for our sole use. Sazz J I am concerned you are paying for a rodent problem, that is the duty of the hall trustees, owners as part of their health and safety obligations do not allow them to continue letting you sort it. 2 Quote
sunnyday Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 I'm sooooooo hoping members of our Hall management Committee never read this thread - that is, of course, highly unlikely! I am getting a very good deal - however, as I outlined in another thread I do give up lots of my time voluntarily to support our hall with 'secretarial' duties :1b I pay £180.00 per month - 20 x 3 hour sessions :1b which equates to just £9.00 each morning. My staff are on rather 'attractive' rates of pay - because they're worth it! :1b Completely agree with lashes re the rodent problem it should be sorted by Hall Committee 2 Quote
thumperrabbit Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 I was thinking that too Sunnyday Not that we still have enough to have anything much more than minimum wage for pay 1 Quote
SazzJ Posted March 23, 2014 Author Posted March 23, 2014 I have raised the matter many times over the last four years, found a live mouse in the bin as it never used to have a lid, thrown out 100's of pounds of equipment, hoovered and washed equipment daily as evidence of droppings in toys/equipment and on rugs to be told 'I am not dealing with mouse traps are you prepared too'!!! I get it's a church and it's a big old building but believe me there is only so much scrubbing and cleaning I can do in 3 hours! The droppings were on the benches daily, on the cooker etc! Enough was enough - they aren't happy about it and I will raise it in the meeting tomorrow. How can you have functions for 100+ people when there are mouse droppings in food preparation areas. Last straw was when they ate a child's pair of slippers After that my parents knew and threatened to contact environmental health x Quote
bubblejack Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) I pay £10.50 an hour. This includes all the utilities.I am using a church I usually get what I want from the P.C.C so i feel its worth it. Most other groups that used the hall have closed down. Probably due to the increased rent so we can leave leave our resources out most days.I was invited to a meeting 5 years ago, listened to what they wanted regarding refurbishments, applied for lottery funding and made lots of changes costing the church nothing.I encouraged them to apply for funding for things that I couldn't claim for so we have a good relationship. Edited March 24, 2014 by bubblejack Quote
lashes2508 Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 they are breaking the law by allowing anyone to hire the kitchen or use it for ffod prep knowing they have a rodent problem , I am chair of the trustees of my hall and would be enraged to allow this to continue , they have obligations to their hirers whatever the rent ! Quote
SazzJ Posted March 24, 2014 Author Posted March 24, 2014 Ohh they aren't bothered at all! Should have just rang environmental health I think now but the mice issue is least of our worries now They haven't said they want us is but have suggested if they can't meet our needs we find an alternative premises! They can't accommodate us and they know that. I am speaking to my parents Thursday and seriously thinking of hitting the papers in a desperate cry to help us find new premises as we are struggling xx Quote
MarshaD Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Church hall - £10 per hour (London) plus extra for heating between October and April. Quote
eyfs1966 Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Church hall - £10 per hour (London) plus extra for heating between October and April. wow, £10/hr in London.....where? Quote
finleysmaid Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 £10,000 a year sole use (+vat) ....just been told they want to put it up to £26,000! Quote
sunnyday Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 £10,000 a year sole use (+vat) ....just been told they want to put it up to £26,000! Nooooooo Quote
sunnyday Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 I so wish we could stop all these media reports about the 'rising cost of child care' - I'm sure that 'people' think we are all 'loaded' 1 Quote
finleysmaid Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Nooooooo yeh full maintaining lease too! :blink: :blink: They try it every three years and i have to go back and argue and then they reduce it! well at least i hope they do or that's it! Quote
SazzJ Posted March 27, 2014 Author Posted March 27, 2014 Oh no Finleysmaid!!! That's astronomical. Say you expected an increase but not that much! Over 150% increase Well were no further forward but parents working together to locate something else for us! They are good parents 1 Quote
Guest Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 WAIT FOR IT.......we pay 28.50 per hour on average we pay £4050.00 per calender month for one hall and kitchen Quote
SazzJ Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 Wow I can't believe how much some of you pay Quote
SazzJ Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 How on earth do any of your high rent earners find it sustainable? Quote
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