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I do my feet, hands and temple! It has such a lovely smell not overpowering like most sleeping potions. My poor Mum tried it and had the worst night sleep ever, only managed three hours.

We will have to ask Cait.

I wondered about that as well. Glad it worked for you. Xx

We are all going to have summer ready feet if nothing else!

Well I used it last night but I did also take some codeine which makes me sleep so not a fair test! Will try just the butter tonight. Was having a giggle when rubbing it in that when I got up in the night I might go skidding and slipping across the floor! How did everyone get on with it?

Yep my sleeping foot butter arrived today, will be trying it tonight. Let’s compare notes (if we wake up) tomorrow. The knee is the same, just gritting my teeth and getting on. My worse thing at the moment is the agony of peri menopause bone and muscle ache, I swear I feel like a 100 year old some days with demobs rampaging through my body. Hopefully the patches will help.

Happy birthday Panders! Have a lovely day whatever you are doing xx

Cait thank you for the recommendation I will give it a go! I am about to embark on HRT (reluctantly) and hope this may help the insomnia as well. Did anyone see Jeremy hunt on the BBC morning news? What a frustrating man he is, absolutely no clue what the sector is currently going through with funding gaps, closures and lack of recruitment. He showed a total disregard for it all and just kept spouting about the “free” entitlement and how much parents would save. Makes me so mad and I am so glad I personally haven’t got to worry about it anymore but just feel so bad for those that do.

How many nurseries and childminders will go out of business due to this! Also Cannot believe they lowered the ratio for two year olds! So very glad I am out of the sector, but feel very sad about the knock on effects for everyone.

Bit late catching up this week! Louby, congratulations hope all are doing well and your Granddaughter is coming around to the idea of a baby brother now! Froglet, not being able to sleep is awful. I’ve had a spell of that recently and it’s really horrible. I’ve been trying snooze gummies from STARPOWA and they have really helped me, I am now mostly back in a normal sleep routine. (They are also natural.)

So glad you have finally moved, sounds like you have been very busy. Great to hear from you again. Xx

Ahh Froglet, sorry to hear this. Like you say it’s always a chance to reset after a break and frustrating when it doesn’t happen. Are there any books I wonder that deal with telling tales? The only other thing I can think off is using some puppets to act out a story of your making. We used to have the brilliant boy and girl puppets and the children responded really well to them. Not sure if you would be able to do this or even if it is the correct thing to do but once when we had a group who were a bit like this myself and a staff member started acting out the behaviour in front of the children, you could have heard a pin drop in the room and they were so shocked by it. But they were able to offer up solutions of what to do. Might be worth a go. How are your acting skills? I hope you have a better day tomorrow and things settle down. Xxx PS. Never apologise for ranting on here!

Sunnyday, how’s the ankle today? I’m with the others on this and really, really think you should speak to someone and not wait until Monday. Xx

Sunnyday that does not sound good at all. Have you spoken to your GP about the ankle swelling up as well, think you definitely should.

I was dreading being told to rest it! I wonder how common knee problems are amongst EY workers? I did 30 years so that’s a lot of time spent on the floor etc, no wonder it’s worn out! I’ll probably get housemaids knee now with the cleaning! How is your knee currently? Xx

Ahh Sunnyday you have a good memory and thank you. The X-ray shows wear and tear in all three sections of the knee and bony spurs growing on it. She’s referring me to a muscular skeletal clinic. The good news is that nothing I do will make it any worse. So I am free to grit my teeth and carry on which is great news.

Quiet week here as well! Been lovely when the sun is shining and have been able to get out and potter in the garden. I will be glad when the seasonal jobs kick in again! Enjoyed a walk on the beach with this one this morning before the rain started. Have a lovely weekend all. Xx

I joined the forum in 2008! Wow cannot believe it’s been that long, where does the time go. For ages I was happy just to read everyone’s posts and then as my confidence grew I felt able to join in and offer my opinions and shared experiences. I cannot put in to words how much it helped me in my working life to connect with the dedicated and amazing people on this forum. The help, support and advice has been invaluable and the laughs along the way certainly helped. I finished working in the sector last year but am still active with my forum friends on here on a weekly basis. I think that proves just how much the forum and the people on here mean to me. Congratulations FSF on the twenty years and I hope you know just how much you have helped and inspired so many people. (One of my proudest moments was receiving a FSF mug and pen through the post!)

Also cannot believe we have kept this thread active since 2016! Where does the time go?

I lost two hours of my life reading the thread again after you said this! Gosh what a different place we are in now with Covid. (Thank goodness) I’d forgotten a lot of the angst and worry that we went through at the beginning, it really was a difficult time, but how quickly we adapted and then adapted to normality again. Amazing really.

It’s really good.

Yep, running on ‘Dreckly’ time!! I know what you mean about being changeable, sometimes mine is almost normal in the morning and then by the time I’ve worked no walked the dog it’s absolute agony.

Wow, it seems so weird, I had absolutely no idea that half term was next week!🤣. Sunnyday I’ve got a face to face booked in with the doctor on the 20th to discuss the X-ray results. She’s away next week unfortunately. How are you getting on with your knee and enforced rest.

Absolutely beautiful Louby Lou.

Blimey, Sunnyday and Panders you have had eventful weeks! Sunnyday that’s quite shocking that the carers did not react quicker to the situation it must have been very scary for you. I know situations like this are unpredictable but they need to act quicker. Hope you are ok. Glad you have a knee diagnosis, like you say at least you know now. I am now just waiting for X-ray results but am terrified I am going to be told to rest it! I looked up your condition and I must say the symptoms sound vey similar. I really need to lose two stone in weight as I know that would probably make a huge difference. But it seems over the last few years it doesn't matter what I do the weight stays exactly the same. In the past I lost weight successfully with WW but last time I tried it just didn’t work. I don’t think peri menopause is helping but I really need to find something that will work! We are meeting my sons partners parents for the first time today! Seems like such a grown up thing to be doing! My son and his partner have been together for 4 years but with Covid and the fact they live at the other end of the county it just has not happened. I am really hoping that they will just be an extension of the family like Amy has become. Louby Lou, I couldn’t agree more, the weeks seem to zoom by at the moment. It’s lovely to see lots of signs of spring now though. Loads of daffodils, snowdrops and violets out here. Which makes you feel spring is on the way. Have a lovely weekend all. Xx