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Updated info on DBS checks from Ofsted


Rea
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Yes, yes I know I would get a lot more done if I spent less time on here - but it's all that keeps me sane :D

I'm always sneaking on when I should be wading through my 'to do' llist! Don't know if it keeps me sane or makes me even less sane than I am already, but I wouldn't be without you all. :D

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In all honesty if it wasn't for this forum - how would we all keep up to date with things!!

 

Sometimes I feel we are hit with overload ...... Luckily due to the good people on here we can keep each other informed :-)

 

Thank you Rea, and thank you EVERBODY who shares infor on here. :-) :-) :-) xx

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Has anyone yet had to refer a member of staff to the DBS? I am facing the first one of those now and the form is epic..

Our new manager has just done one, i'm waiting for the email so I can do the endorsing bits.

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OK I am confused about this. I thought that the point in the DBS was that if the applicant had remained registered with the DBS we could do an online check but the guidance appears to say that we have to do a new one. Am I misunderstanding this?

Thanks Rea ;) Looks like another late night unravelling the mysteries of Ofsted guidance.

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Thanks for this.

As a new manager I find The forums invaluable. So now for the question, having read this, I have just got the owners to redo all DBS checks as way out of date so should they have signed everyone up to the update service at the same time? I'm not sure if they did - thinking not so justo anted to check I've got it right before approaching it - especially as they have given me responsibility of registered person.

 

Thanks in advance

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Hi Wookie, welcome to the forum and good luck in you managers role, there is no requirement to redo checks, but if you've got the owners to cough up all well and good, I had new staff a few months ago and they had to do their own (capita), we refunded them the £52 but they had to pay for the update service themselves, but from other threads recently it looks like 'not to' isn't an option anymore.

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Well if they do, it's just another way to make money.

Our committee could in essence stay just one year or for up to six consecutive years, that's a lot of money to find.

Will have to look into this as our AGM is in a few weeks time and we start the whole DBS system again, I can't wait (not).

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Yes they do have to- it says on their website - but for volunteers the update service is free.

However one of our committee who last week got her DBS, duly signed up and registered for the update service. She then was asked to do another one for a school she helps out in and was told none of what she had was any good for them and she would have to get another DBS. I'm beginning to think this whole thing is ludicrous. I thought the whole point of the DBS was to so we would have a central base to check on people. It's ridiculous that someone who has just had an enhanced check done one week has to get another one done the following week for someone else.

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lynned55 I am reading the same as you. It seems that in order for you to be able to use your DBS for different places Ofsted say it must be a like for like setting e.g. nursery to nursery. helping at brownies would be different.

Am I reading this right if so then its a waste of time being flexible.

Also confused over students it says ofsted will obtain DBS?

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Is it because it is specifically for an age range? I've preschool to 4 years and Brownies are 7-11. I thought DBS was meant to do away with that - the registration number and update thing was so that a new employer could contact the service to check. I've misunderstood it all too then!!!

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I assumed it was fine to just check an applicant's DBS check on-line, but more is required: (extract)

Inspectors will check that the employer has:

• noticed any unexplained gaps in a person’s employment and if this is the case, that they have not let the person start work until they have their own DBS check. (Employers should not use an existing DBS check if there has been a break of more than three months in service.)

• checked the details on the existing DBS check using forms of identity for the person concerned, for example, they have cross-referenced address and date of birth details from other identity documents

• seen the original DBS certificate, not a photocopy, and tried to contact the person who requested the original check, to confirm if any other information was released through a separate letter. (If other information was released, the employer must not let the person start work until they have a new DBS check.)

• not accepted an existing DBS check that is too old. (A DBS check does not last for an agreed length of time, but it is best to expect that an existing check is no older than 12 months.)

If the employer cannot show that they have taken these steps, then the inspector will reflect this in the inspection judgement(s).

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