Guest Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 When I wrote ours (a long time ago) I remember that we were supposed to get parents' input, ... That is what I was thinking; how to get parents' input? Any ideas. I have just completed ours and here we go - new version. It is just the beginning of the term but I am already feeling that I need a holiday. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louby loo Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Not sure what to make of this. I would definitely come back, not because I don't trust the team, but leaving them to face the music unsupported seems like abandonment to me. At least we get half a day's nice now so that situation should be avoided. 100% agree! We just had a 'plan' as to just 'why' I had actually turned up on a day off... ::1a But as you say now with the half days notice it shouldn't be a problem now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 That is what I was thinking; how to get parents' input? Any ideas. I have just completed ours and here we go - new version. It is just the beginning of the term but I am already feeling that I need a holiday. :-( For 'Parents input' - I include a few (complimentary ) comments that parents have added to their children's Learning Journey folders.......also record how we have responded to/acted upon parents comments on questionnaires...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflowers Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) I don't see anything in the new guidance on bringing parents into the evaluation of the setting (the content of the SEF), just to seek and listen to their views: "[...] tell us about the views of the children and their parents or carers. [...] Things to consider include: how you obtain and use the views of others, for example through using parental questionnaires, parent meetings, [...] whether parents are included in your management body or how else they contribute directly to the running of your provision [...] examples of any action you have taken to change your provision as a result of the views of others." Edited September 7, 2015 by Wildflowers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Wildflowers (or someone else clever) - please can you tell me how to copy and pasts from Word onto the on-line form? We have tried to do this and have failed utterly! Typing it all into those tiny boxes is sooooo frustrating. I will be so very, very grateful for an answer. Thank you - you'll make my day week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Parent contributions (not necessarily directly about SEF)... comments rom questionnaires quotes from leaving cards comments written by parents on review sheets verbal comments have also asked a specific question with a yes or no answer, then asked parents to vote to make a decision e.g. would it be better for the children to eat tea at 3.00 or 4.00 We also keep any comments made by visiting professionals e.g. some have commented we are very inclusive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumperrabbit Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Wildflowers (or someone else clever) - please can you tell me how to copy and pasts from Word onto the on-line form? We have tried to do this and have failed utterly! Typing it all into those tiny boxes is sooooo frustrating. I will be so very, very grateful for an answer. Thank you - you'll make my day week! Try this ... Get your copy open in word and the SEF open On your copy select all the text (it's best to do a section at a time) and then use CONTROL & C at the same time this copies your text (same as right click copy) Then go to the SEF click in the box where you want to paste the text and use CONTROL & V at the same time you should then see your text - well it works for me anyway! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflowers Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I do what Thumperrabbit does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyfs1966 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I was able to just right click and copy/paste as normal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'll be trying this tomorrow. :1b :1b :1b :1b :1b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumperrabbit Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'll be trying this tomorrow. :1b :1b :1b :1b :1b You're welcome :1b Gruffalo you were up early!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Just woke up, couldn't get back to sleep and got bored lying in bed in the dark. Thought I may as well do something useful. Did go back to bed later and then overslept!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Please will someone tell me what the wording is for the new section 'outcomes for children'. Many thanks. Any thoughts on what could go in there gratefully received too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 When you get to this section on the on-line SEF there is a tab for more guidance on what should be in the section. Courtesy of another kind person on here (sorry I can't remember who) it says: SECTION 6: OUTCOMES FOR CHILDRENThis section is about the progress of different groups of children from their starting points. You may find it helpful to refer to pages 41–44 of the early years inspection handbook, pages 10–12 of the EYFS and Early Years Outcomes. You should evaluate how well you: identify children’s starting points and the progress they are making over time support children who are disadvantaged or under-performing to catch up help children to work at typical levels of development for their age, including those whose development exceeds what is typical for their age help children to develop skills that will help them to be ready for the next stage of learning. Do not just list what you do but consider the impact of your work and how well you and any assistants that work with you: challenge children to develop and make good progress towards the early learning goals from their starting points help children to think critically, play and explore and be active and creative learners check the progress children are making across the areas of learning ensure that children achieve as much as they can in relation to their starting points help children to enjoy their learning, be motivated and excited to take part in activities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Thanks very much - I don't have access to the online SEF as I'm retired now, but I want to see what's changed so I can keep up to date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflowers Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Thanks very much - I don't have access to the online SEF as I'm retired now, but I want to see what's changed so I can keep up to date You can check the other SEF thread for the new guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceinWonderland Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Hi Everyone, I am currently awaiting my first Ofsted inspection, I completed the SEF after about 6 months of taking over the nursery and need to update it again. When you update, do you start again from scratch? I sort of want to keep the original things i wrote as well as write the new as i think it would be useful for the inspector to see how far we have come, especially after the state the place was in when i took over! I wondered if it was the done thing to maybe keep the original stuff and write the new in a different colour to distinguish between the two? Opinions please, Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) Hi pebbles1 and welcome, I just put the date and what's changed, definately don't start again....though mine is still on the TDL, note to self 'find log in details' :-/ Edited September 20, 2015 by Mouseketeer 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verona Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I do mine when significant changes occur and look through it in the summer holidays. we had an inspection in May this year and one of the first things the inspector said was that she had read the SEF and was very impressed with it as it is bullet pointed and to the point. She ploughs through some SEFS and as she is reading thinks "When are we getting to the point?" but ours was spot on. I was very pleased with her comments. I put parents comments in, taking them from questionnaires and we have a children's questionnaire and I write their comments in the appropriate sections. V 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Hi Everyone, I am currently awaiting my first Ofsted inspection, I completed the SEF after about 6 months of taking over the nursery and need to update it again. When you update, do you start again from scratch? I sort of want to keep the original things i wrote as well as write the new as i think it would be useful for the inspector to see how far we have come, especially after the state the place was in when i took over! I wondered if it was the done thing to maybe keep the original stuff and write the new in a different colour to distinguish between the two? Opinions please, Thanks in advance Hi pebbles and a very warm welcome to the forum :1b Noooooo - I definitely don't 'start again from scratch' - perish the thought :blink: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Hi pebbles1 and welcome, I just put the date and what's changed, definately don't start again....though mine is still on the TDL, note to self 'find log in details' :-/image.jpg You gave me a laugh out loud moment there Mousie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceinWonderland Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Thanks everyone, appreciate it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langwithbassettpreschool Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 HI all i was wondering if anyone uses their own self evaluation instead of Ofsteds online one and if so what format do you use? thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 well i may as well have as it hadn't been looked at by last inspector anyway :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueJ Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 HI all i was wondering if anyone uses their own self evaluation instead of Ofsteds online one and if so what format do you use? thankyou We used to but at our one of our inspections we were then pulled up for not self-evaluating enough - e.g., we hadn't done the Ofsted SEF !!!! well i may as well have as it hadn't been looked at by last inspector anyway :-/ Having spent forever getting the SEF sorted and updated whenever they changed the format we thought we had cracked it. During my last inspection (May this year) the inspector started going on about SEF updates and during the conversation it transpired that the one she had pulled off the Ofsted portal was the one that was out of date - thankfully we were able to show her a print out of the one we had done in February. I don't think it was her error as she was going to go back to Ofsted to ask why the old one was still on there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I had printed so was able to give her, just said it hadn't been "sent over" so presumed there wasn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Hi Pebbles. DEFINITELY no need to start from scratch! When you open it to edit, it's all there so just make any changes you need. If you do a print out of it you can use it as a working document to write on and make changes as you go along. That way, you can see what you changed, and when, if you want to keep details like that. Edited September 21, 2015 by Cait 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceinWonderland Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Thanks Cait, added it to my TDL along with everything else!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Haha join the club pebbles ....we are all very well qualified in TDL's :-) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceinWonderland Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I actually wrote a list last week and worked my way through it. By the end of the week the pile of paperwork i had to do had grown! not sure that's the way it's meant to work! lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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