Term dates for pre school

[prestonpreschool]

Hi it's my first time publishing term dates for pre-school. I'm looking for advice please. Children are funded for 38 weeks of the year. Does this mean that the term should run for exactly 38 weeks? I ask this as I'm wondering where staff training days fit in! I'd appreciate any help. Thank you

[eyfs1966]

They don't or at least not with my LA.

[BroadOaks]

Staff training days? What are they lol... maybe have them in out of term times?

 

With the funding being set over 38 weeks of the year (14 , 11 , 13 weeks for us this year) that would leave 14 weeks of out of school time. i understand some settings dont open for out of term but wouldn't that be best or even at nights?

[lsp]

Nor here. We are only allowed to claim the funding if we are open so no closures for training days for us - officially.

[Fredbear]

I think it's important to look at your funding contract to see if it allows you to have inset ( training days).

[Inge]

Each LA seems to have own rule so you will need to check with yours..

 

Like many ours only funds the 38 weeks and settings must be open enough days to qualify - in our area even May day has to be accounted for so there is always an odd day to make up..

 

Any training had to be paid for out of the income for the 38 weeks..

[korkycat]

]We do not close for inset days in local schools as they are all different. LEA term dates include 5 extra days for training. We pay 39 weeks. We have 5 days that we use for a variety of purposes - whole staff training; First day of school year when we get organised!; Open morning;Christmas party;toy cleaning - occasionally we close early for Christmas to give staff an opportunity to do some shopping!

I've attached our LEA dates for this school year - others will be different!

Korkycat

 

School Term Dates 2015-16_tcm44-241895.pdf

[flowlow]

Hi

 

we do get training days, so we have 38 wks we have to be open but that includes four inset days. We have checked this many times and it is right

[Lynne28]

Hi

 

It is in our terms and conditions with the LEA that we have to be open 38 weeks of the year, if we have an inset day you have to add it on to make sure that all funded children get their 38 weeks free entitlement, so therefore we do not have inset days, we plan meetings either after work or during half terms when we are closed. This works better for us.

[blondie]

we used to be allowed to have inset days taken out of our 38 weeks -this stopped a few years ago - apparently according to our la preschool parents were complaining that they weren't getting the amount of hours/days they should have - i have spoken to lots of other settings and they have spoken to lots of parents (as i have) and not one parent has complained and said they had no problem with us have training days as would benefit their children

[blondie]

Hi

 

we do get training days, so we have 38 wks we have to be open but that includes four inset days. We have checked this many times and it is right

where abouts are you johanna1 - perhaps we all need to move to your area lol

[Guest]

I've just rechecked our conditions and it doesn't mention inset days at all. However, it does say we are paid for Bank holidays, so if we're closed (we are) then any overpayment needs to be spent on resources and receipts kept for auditing.

 

I think, however, we won't be having inset days as in previous years as we can do our training on a Thursday, when we're not open. The inset days were more because the staff had no childcare for their own school-age children on the school's inset days, so ours were in line with theirs!

[flowlow]

south west way for me. I know I checked recently though because I had another enquiry and they were still saying this was the case. To be fair it can be a pain as not so long ago we were expected to all train together for these days which was fine but sometimes we all needed to train in different things!

[bubblejack]

We are paid for bank holidays but do not officially have inset days. If it is something very important that all of us need to attend I have shut. This is very rare though. I have different staff members covering different area so it is usually not necessary for us to close. They do share their findings at staff meetings. I do only open for 38 weeks though, being doing this for ages. If parents query this I explain that we do not have inset days. I give them the option to decide if I stay open for the extra week and parents pay but so far only a few showed interest so its not financially viable.

[humptydumptys]

We open for 39 weeks and have 5 inset days, 1 at the start of each new term and 2 at the end of the summer term. We have done this for many years and works well for us.

[Mouseketeer]

Do you get funded for 39 wks humptydumpty ?

 

It would be nice to just maybe have one day funded or even a half day to get staff in before the new year to go over all the the changes that get thrown at us through the holidays and then expect to be implemented from the second the doors open :-/

 

I know part of our school development day this week included FBV's and Prevent ....why are we not given time and pay to do this ?

Edited September 6, 2015 by Mouseketeer

[lashes2508]

What is an FBV ?

[lsp]

Fundemental British Values????????

 

It is on my new to do list alongside review of policies. I have read lots of comments and links on here but not done anything yet.

Edited September 6, 2015 by lsp

[lashes2508]

As soon as I typed it , I worked it out !! Just another acronym to the long list ! But thank you ?

Edited September 6, 2015 by lashes2508

[GFCCCC]

Our staff work 39 weeks (same as school terms) and the children attend 38 weeks - so we have 5 inset days.

However, I did ask our LA and they said we are allowed to include inset days in the 38 weeks.

[Mouseketeer]

so are you funded for 39 weeks or still funded for 38 wks and you pay the staff for wk 39 with no income ?

[MarshaD]

We do 38 weeks plus three INSET days, one a term.