Melba Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 We had our advisor in today and she told us that it is no longer necessary to have appraisals as long as we are doing supervisions regularly, Has anyone else heard this? Quote
BeanyBird Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Hi Melba We have been told that Supervisions are a must but they are not the same as an appraisal so appraisals still need to be carried out. As my setting is new, Supervisions are carried out every term and I intend to carry out appraisals annually. Hope this helps Quote
Panders Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Well I had begun to wonder whether or not to do both. I prefer the supervisions and I do try and give a fair bit of feedback, but some questions from Appraisal are not asked at the supervision. So may make the summer term the appraisally/supervision one! Quote
Melba Posted April 23, 2015 Author Posted April 23, 2015 The advisor said it had changed recently and was quite sure it is true. I also feel that supervisions are enough and there never seems to be much left to say in an appraisal Quote
Melba Posted April 23, 2015 Author Posted April 23, 2015 I think she based it on the fact that there is no mention of appraisals in the revised EYFS It sets out the requirements for supervisions but not a word about appraisals. Quote
thumperrabbit Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 I'm same as Panders - it just means with the frequency of 1:1 meetings, what ever name you give them, we get through them quicker now! I do also as a committee setting give the staff of having a meeting with the Chairperson for the appraisal - not that anyone has ever taken up the offer. Quote
Foreveryoung Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 We do not do appraisals with doing increased one to ones, we cover it during 1:1's I stopped them end of last year as they are not required, with peer obs, one to ones and everything else I was glad to say goodbye to them x 1 Quote
blondie Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 would really love to drop the appraisals as i think they are a waste of time. does anyone have a copy of their 1: 1/ peer observations they do that i can look at please - am sure my development worker will moan though lol Quote
sunnyday Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 peers obs proforma.doc Have to acknowledge that this is not my work - but hope it helps! I'm so impressed that you still have a development worker - none of that support here now - well not unless we are prepared to stump up something like £700.00 for three visits not bloomin' likely - if I had a spare £700.00 (which i don't) I would put to much better use! Apologies to any advisers! would really love to drop the appraisals as i think they are a waste of time. does anyone have a copy of their 1: 1/ peer observations they do that i can look at please - am sure my development worker will moan though lol 1 Quote
sunnyday Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Oh here is another one - again not my work peer observation.coaching proforma.docx Quote
Panders Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Very good Sunnyday, thank you for that. Nothing like the one I use!!! My SIP suggested using the one for Every Child a Talker, which I have done quite successfully, and then we complete another format during the chat afterwards. Quote
sunnyday Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Very good Sunnyday, thank you for that. Nothing like the one I use!!! My SIP suggested using the one for Every Child a Talker, which I have done quite successfully, and then we complete another format during the chat afterwards. Oi - what's going on here - you still have a SIP? Quote
Panders Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Oi - what's going on here - you still have a SIP? Sunnyday - as if, no before they were sent off into the sunset honey. Quote
blondie Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Well i cant actually say i really have a development worker as i only ever see her about once a year - and when i do she always moans about something i haven't done lol. But she is there if i need advice - so i cant complain really :rolleyes: Quote
sunnyday Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Sunnyday - as if, no before they were sent off into the sunset honey. Right - that's OK then! Quote
Fredbear Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Crumbs I'm feeling rather lucky in our neck of the woods. We see ours roughly once a term at our community learning meetings and can always email if necessary. Have to say that they don't come to the setting anymore though. Quote
thumperrabbit Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 On e a year for me too - we can email questions although it can take weeks for reply alternatively we can pay roughly £300 for an extra visit Quote
Guest Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 In eyfs requirements since sept 2014, we no longer do them as we feel (my staff and I) that supervision done 6 times during the year is adequate and more beneficial than a yearly appraisal and supervision has to be done Quote
Mouseketeer Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 Pleased to see a couple of others are only doing supervisions termly, we tried the half termly, but seemed to just go over same things for the sake of it, if a problem comes up I intend to do an individual meet with that staff member sooner, and fitting them in was a nightmare, they started in our area as 'supervision to safeguard' meetings but I wouldn't want (and know they wouldn't) wait till their next supervision to raise a concern. Quote
mundia Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 Out of interest is anyone still doing appraisals?. Personally I still like appraisals as a way of planning the year ahead (staff development needs, training plan, budgets etc)and looking back at the year behind. I see this as different from supervisions, I suppose a bit like formative v summative. Both have a function that is interconnected but different. Just me then? Quote
Mouseketeer Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 we are making our last supervision a bit more formal and calling it appraisal, we do look at training needs/wants at supervision, so my intention with the last meeting of the year will be to discuss anything that wasn't done, ask if all happy with existing hours of employment, how they see their role developing, we recently started peer obs so i want to know their thoughts on them and whether they have improved their practice in response to areas identified (seem to have gone ok, but as manager i didn't see the paperwork they completed on each other, only a brief evaluation from their follow up meetings with each other, not sure if this is what other managers do). Quote
sunnyday Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 Out of interest is anyone still doing appraisals?. Personally I still like appraisals as a way of planning the year ahead (staff development needs, training plan, budgets etc)and looking back at the year behind. I see this as different from supervisions, I suppose a bit like formative v summative. Both have a function that is interconnected but different. Just me then? No not just you mundia - I will still be doing appraisals :1b Quote
Lynne28 Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi, I have just started apprasils and my next steps is supervisions, can any one share theirs please, just as a guideline Many thanks Quote
sunnyday Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Supervision meeting record 2012 blank.docx Have to acknowledge this is not my work - but hope it helps :1b Quote
Panders Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) supervision record template forum.doc This is what I use, but like Sunnyday can't take the credit for it, may well be a mash up of a couple from on here! First I do a 10 minute observation on the staff, then later we sit and go through this form Edited April 27, 2015 by Panders 1 Quote
Guest Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 We still do both supervisions and appraisals. In my humble ...... Supervisions give a chance to discuss the staff member's general well-being, progress on their personal development plan and a chance to review their key children. Appraisals help to celebrate the achievements of the previous year and agree a personal development plan for the year ahead, based on the person's own development needs and the setting development plans. Quote
cleverclowns Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 This is what I use - we have regular supervisions but we also have matters that arise that have to be dealt with before the next supervision so we put it all in one form Quote
cleverclowns Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 This is what I use - we have regular supervisions but we also have matters that arise that have to be dealt with before the next supervision so we put it all in one form Quote
cleverclowns Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) SUPERVISION & MATTERS ARISING RECORD.docThis is what I use - we have regular supervisions but we also have matters that arise that have to be dealt with before the next supervision so we put it all in one form. We also do yearly Appraisals that pull together staff feedback forms and supervisions too. Edited April 30, 2015 by cleverclowns Quote
MarshaD Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Someone put some good appraisal / coaching / mentoring stuff on here somewhere recently (very specific I know!) As said appraisals and supervisions are different. We do both. Obs once a term, supervisions half termly and at every other one review appraisal targets too. Quote
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