Fredbear Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Hi just out of interest has anyone ever refused an Inspection. Okay so I will explain my question. We were inspected in October 2012, with an expectation not to see them again for 3/4 years from our outcome. As we had to re-register due to us becoming an Incorporated Company with Charitable Status. I was advised as the Committee now Trustees, staffing, premises had not changed another Inspection was unnecessary. Guess what they arrived today to inspect us again. Although in principle I am not against having it done again, just feel peeved to have to go through the draining process so soon after the other one. Sorry rant over. Quote
sunnyday Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Oh dear you poor things - did it all go well though? Someone........think it might have been 'Pimms' - was inspected twice in very short amount of time (big apologies to Pimms if I've got that wrong :blink: ) 1 Quote
Fredbear Posted September 20, 2012 Author Posted September 20, 2012 Yes it was fine, just wanted to get my frustrations out i suppose, of a day lost of doing all the things I did have planned for today . 1 Quote
Stargrower Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 You have my sympathies...every 3 or 4 years is quite enough! Glad it went well though. Let's hope they give you a breather now! Beehive Quote
mundia Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 I think this is quite typical if you are seen as a new registration.. we had a few settings this happened to..they changed the registered body but nothing else and still had to go through another inspection very soon after their previous one. When you search OFSTED for your setting, does it come with your 'old' history or just make reference to when your new reg took place? And did you mean October 2011, because unless I'm mistaken, we haven't reached October 2012 yet! Quote
Fredbear Posted September 20, 2012 Author Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) Oops Mundia, my error yes 2011, its been along day. It does have new registration details, but also old registration details with closed next to it. But are still able to access last Ofsted report October 2011. Edited September 20, 2012 by Fredbear 1 Quote
zigzag Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 Poor you, we were done in 2009 and are desperate for them to come and do us again and get it over with!!! The school was done in the summer term and we went onto high alert but they never arrived. Glad yours went ok, but I would say its just the luck of the draw with Ofsted!!! Quote
Helen Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 It is indeed the luck of the draw! When the new inspection cycle began at the beginning of this month, every setting was put back in the pot, so to speak, and randomly selected for inspection for this next cycle. :1b I think you'd be on very dodgy ground to ever refuse one! Inspectors have greater rights to enter settings than the police. Quote
sunnyday Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 It is indeed the luck of the draw! When the new inspection cycle began at the beginning of this month, every setting was put back in the pot, so to speak, and randomly selected for inspection for this next cycle. Oh really - gosh I didn't realise that so no more thinking well we have at three years before our next inspection.......... Quote
Helen Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 I don't think so sunnyday; not according to some recent training I attended. :1b Quote
Cait Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 ...... and we could have another 3 before ours! We're due now Quote
sunnyday Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 I don't think so sunnyday; not according to some recent training I attended. :1b Right then - hmmmm - ok......... :blink: Quote
Fredbear Posted September 21, 2012 Author Posted September 21, 2012 I would never have refused them, just felt it was a total waste of resources both in mine and their time. But hey ho it's done now, and a lovely inspector she was too. 1 Quote
sunnyday Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 I would never have refused them, just felt it was a total waste of resources both in mine and their time. But hey ho it's done now, and a lovely inspector she was too. Absolutely - just been talking this over with Mr S - he said "what a waste of time and money" Quote
Buttercup Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 I went into partnership with someone in September and had suitable person check. In the January she left and I then had to re register, pay my money again and have yes another suitable person check. What a joke. So yes I can believe what they have done. buttercup Quote
Pimms o'clock? Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) Oh dear you poor things - did it all go well though? Someone........think it might have been 'Pimms' - was inspected twice in very short amount of time (big apologies to Pimms if I've got that wrong :blink: ) It was me, you're right, 22nd January 2010 and again on 31st January 2011. The inspector said she queried it when it came up on the job list in response to my greeting her with "you're joking, this is a wind up" when I opened the door to her. :1b Edited September 21, 2012 by Pimms o'clock? 1 Quote
Fredbear Posted September 21, 2012 Author Posted September 21, 2012 Now that did make me chuckle. Well our inspector knocked at the main building doors, not the door we use for entrance or exit for pre-school. The funny thing was the only person that knocks on that door is Father Christmas when he pays us a visit. Didn't hear the staff go ho ho ho though, more like boo hoo hoo. 1 Quote
Mouseketeer Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 Was told this week that QIA visits for the next round have been changed to reflect settings expecting ofsted soonest having theirs first...did strike me as a pointless excercise if theres no consistency to the order in which ofsted visit...I did ask if thy knew more than they let on but was assured no ! Quote
Guest sn0wdr0p Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 mmmm funny isn't it how different authorities tell us different things. I was told at inspection training two weeks ago that we were all back in the pot together! Quote
Guest Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Hi there, we've just had our Children's Centre Ofsted just over 4 years on from our previous Early bird care one so it's likely that they are prioritising those that have waited the longest. They've probably thrown a few others into the mix randomly just to keep everyone on their toes. Quote
Guest Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 It is indeed the luck of the draw! When the new inspection cycle began at the beginning of this month, every setting was put back in the pot, so to speak, and randomly selected for inspection for this next cycle. :1b I think you'd be on very dodgy ground to ever refuse one! Inspectors have greater rights to enter settings than the police. This worries me in that some settings could not get drawn out of the pot....has every setting been inspected since EYFS 2008 was introduced? Nona Quote
Helen Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Yes, Nona, I believe so. The cycle ended in August so everyone would have been inspected in the last 4 years. Quote
Guest Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Thanks Helen, that's somewhat of a relief :mellow: I know I was one of many in my LA who were never inspected under Birth to Three (as I was inspected just before it was introduced and gained the highest grading at that time I was told it would be 3 years before Ofsted would come again and it was in fact 1 day under 4 years!) It troubled me that some settings would be falling through the cracks if the selection process really was so random :blink: You've put my mind at rest! Nona Quote
anju Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 We were told that everyone's back in the pot BUT they would be prioritising settings with lower gradings. So I'm none the wiser really. Quote
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