Rafa Posted January 29, 2017 Posted January 29, 2017 Has anyone had a visit from their LA to monitor the use/outcome of Eypp and how did it go? Quote
FSFRebecca Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 No, we haven't seen anyone - although our Ofsted inspector was very thorough about how we could prove 'impact' of the money we had spent. Quote
Rafa Posted January 30, 2017 Author Posted January 30, 2017 No, we haven't seen anyone - although our Ofsted inspector was very thorough about how we could prove 'impact' of the money we had spent. Hmmmm we got a very thorough 'going over today'. Over 3hrs!! I think we 'passed' with a few admin 'to do's'. Made me think though....it's another extra lot of work being placed on us for .53p per hour (less tax) resource! Maybe we should be in 'Power' - we make magic happen.....on nothing very much at all, imagine how we could get people's bins emptied every week! Quote
Guest Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 Hmmmm we got a very thorough 'going over today'. Over 3hrs!! I think we 'passed' with a few admin 'to do's'. Made me think though....it's another extra lot of work being placed on us for .53p per hour (less tax) resource! Maybe we should be in 'Power' - we make magic happen.....on nothing very much at all, imagine how we could get people's bins emptied every week! This term I have one child who is elegible....a total of about £87.....now what can we do with that.....???? finding it not worth it if you know what I mean.... Quote
finleysmaid Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 Hmmmm we got a very thorough 'going over today'. Over 3hrs!! I think we 'passed' with a few admin 'to do's'. Made me think though....it's another extra lot of work being placed on us for .53p per hour (less tax) resource! Maybe we should be in 'Power' - we make magic happen.....on nothing very much at all, imagine how we could get people's bins emptied every week! good grief....what did they ask you??? 1 Quote
Rafa Posted February 5, 2017 Author Posted February 5, 2017 good grief....what did they ask you??? Evidence of money spent...... And tracking a child......... Lots of questions and lots of answers! Quote
Mouseketeer Posted February 5, 2017 Posted February 5, 2017 Oh Rafa what a pain :-/ I have become a bit lax at chasing EYPP forms that don't come back, or following up if the checker says it can't confirm at this time, we spend so much time thinking about what to do with it, and to worry about which gaps it is or isn't closing. 1 Quote
mundia Posted February 6, 2017 Posted February 6, 2017 I don't know if this has been shared already but there's a newly published report on experiences of EYPP https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/experiences-of-the-early-years-pupil-premium It's part of the SEED study (study of early education and development) some bed time reading.. Quote
hali Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 Was at an EY conference with Ofsted last week. They say that from April inspectors will really be tracking EYPP children and asking the key person how the money is being spent in much more depth than of late. it will be reported on in the reports and if no EYPP children are on the register in a depreived area why not!!!!! Quote
GFCCCC Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 We were told at the annual PVI business meeting with our LA today that the last few inspections in the city have been very keen on the EYPP tracking/expenditure and outcomes for children. Moreover, they expect staff in the pre-school room, and not just the managers, to be able to explain which children get the funding, what they are doing for those children over and above, and what the expected outcomes are. 1 Quote
hopeytg Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 Daft questions but should the tracking of EYPP - children and spending etc include funded 2 year olds? - We don't have any EYPP but we do have 1 funded 2 yr old ? Quote
Rafa Posted February 7, 2017 Author Posted February 7, 2017 Yes the feedback was all about what Ofsted will be looking for. I confess our paperwork was not quite up to scratch! I have the feedback form -not with me - but I will put the headings on. IF YOU DO HAVE EYPP CHILDREN THEN THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF!! Everything must be documented individually: , individual childrens needs: expenditure: etc I messed up by grouping my 6 childrens eypp together and arranged small group activities that support early learning skills in readiness for school. I pay someone to come in 2 days a week Thought I was ahead of the game....... Now realise that paperwork showing individual needs is a MUST! Will put the monitoring headings on here tomorrow so you can see how its supposed to be done! Lots of work again and I feel another big judgement on us, as if we don't do enough already!!! 3 Quote
Rafa Posted February 7, 2017 Author Posted February 7, 2017 Daft questions but should the tracking of EYPP - children and spending etc include funded 2 year olds? - We don't have any EYPP but we do have 1 funded 2 yr old ? 2yr funded WILL be tracked too. Quote
Mouseketeer Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) That won't be a problem when we don't have any room for 2 yr olds ;-p Edited February 7, 2017 by Mouseketeer 1 Quote
narnia Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 so............wht kind of things would you buy with the extra money from EYPP?? I might have two children on it soon Quote
lsp Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 Guess what I bought Narnia ???? Community playthings role play items - following childs interests to encourage use of language and engagement with peers. Quote
finleysmaid Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 YayYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY hang on a minute Narnia...you're not going to get much CPT stuff for 2 childrens EYPP! ::1a ::1a 3 Quote
Guest Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 so............wht kind of things would you buy with the extra money from EYPP?? I might have two children on it soon We had 3 children previously, although only 1 at the moment despite the area we are in! Lots live in flats and we were getting frequent requests not to take them outside if it was raining, so we bought some good quality waterproof trousers to enable them to access outdoor play more readily. Quote
zigzag Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 We currently have one child on EYPP who has no developmental delays at all. I have struggled to come up with ideas of things to buy so that I can justify my spending and the impact it has. I think the amount of paperwork involved for an extra 53p an hour is just ridiculous and the extra responsibility of justifying it to Ofsted just puts more pressure on. 2 Quote
FSFRebecca Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 I've heard of settings who have used it to buy the parents a bus pass to get them to nursery on time or membership of a group like Tumble Tots to help get them out and about and involved in their community - might that be possible? 1 Quote
GFCCCC Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 We have spent our EYPP on many things including equipment, staff training, mad science workshops, books, learning bags etc. Quote
Rafa Posted February 8, 2017 Author Posted February 8, 2017 So here is the monitoring form used for EYPP by our LEA - so questions you may be asked by Ofsted?? How is the Eypp being promoted to parents? Have you encountered any barriers stopping parents applying for Eypp? Do all practitioners know who the EYPP children are and what their Eypp action plans cover? How do you ensure a shared ethos of high aspirations and expectations for all children and ensure that all practitioners are held accountable for individual children's progress? Then.. Discussion on an identified child with Eypp Has the child got an action plan and if so who was involved in developing this? Childs progress tracked Action Plan (subtitles): Have the needs of the child been identified Have actions/interventions been identified Does the plan link to the prime areas Is supporting parents in engaging with children's learning a feature in the actions Are timescales included Have the costs been recorded Have monitoring strategies been identified Is impact noted Good eh? 1 Quote
gillpen Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 Thanks so much for posting this Rafa! Wow, I thought I was keeping reasonable track of any EYPP expenditure and outcomes etc but looking at that list, I realise it's back to the drawing board for me! 3 Quote
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