Going on a school visit.

[Guest]

We can walk to a local school. The 2 keyworkers of the children visiting are level 2 (working towards 3) we cant spare another member of staff. They are First Aid trained, would you allow them to go?

 

[woodlands1997]

Personally no, I wouldn't think it would be worth the risk x

[Stargrower]

No, me neither I'm afraid!

[Cait]

Can you get parents to take their own children?

[Fredbear]

No sorry I wouldn't do it either. Parent support might be a better option.

[diesel10]

Am I missing something. How many children are they taking????

 

I've just been reading the updated for Sept EYFS, do you need to cover the ratio's and the outings sections?

 

 

Edited June 18, 2014 by diesel10

[mrsbat]

I am probably being really dim etc etc but why can't you let the level 2's go on their own? I know the answer is probably staring me in the face but........

[Wildflowers]

There needs to be a level 3 person present at all times.

[mrsbat]

I thought it would be that.......not an issue for us as everyone is qualified to level 3 anyway apart from 1 member of staff. Must make it awkward for settings that only have 1 level 3 and all others level 2 though surely? Can't be in two places at one time I guess.......

[Mouseketeer]

So isn't there a level 3 that could go instead and one of the 2's stay back ?

[Guest]

I was not clear. The children are visiting their new school with their Key worker. The choice is as we are short staffed .1 level 2 member of staff(key worker) and a supply staff level 3 -that does not know the other child or 2 levl 2 staff.

I have asked else where to and the answer I got was for me to risk assess and that there did not have to be a level 3 on the 5 minute walk as long as First Aid trained, they both are. As the rules are now one level 3 in charge of a setting and 50% level 2 and the other unqualified you could be in a very small setting with 4 staff and only one level 3 so the group could never split and post a letter, buy some flour etc. Child minders dont have to be level 3 or out of school staff.

Ofsted said 'grey area' and to use my professional judgement . So I have decided best practice is to send level 3 when possible but to use my knowledge of the staff I am sending to call it eg level 2 but over 10 years experience / or level 3 qualified yesterday and not really knowing the child.

Ps they always have aphone ad first aid kit with them too.