lynned55 Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Having just read through all the DBS stuff and it says that eligible volunteers will be free. Surely committee members will be classed as volunteers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Having just read through all the DBS stuff and it says that eligible volunteers will be free. Surely committee members will be classed as volunteers well thats how i read it too..... Checks for eligible volunteers are free of charge. This includes anyone who spends time helping people and: isn’t being paid (apart from travel and other approved out of pocket expenses) isn’t just looking after a close relative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 From what we've found out volunteers are free of charge for the actually check but there is an admin charge for the application - the list of organisations seems endless and there is a big difference in admin charges. £8.50 is a good charge compared to some of the others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lashes2508 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I spoke to ofsted yesterday as very concerned regarding the issue of certificates within last 2 weeks - ofsted lady also not happy about this and said it did not make sense !!! she confirmed that committee members although volunteers would still need an enhanced check - if they currently hold a enhanced crb - only update and admin fee and that anyone who currently holds a certificate could also be updated - i'm still awaiting a call back committee members are volunteers but they need an enhanced check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynned55 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Today, I rang Ofsted re charges for new DBS- wait for it: As committee are the registered person/body they are NOT classed as volunteers and will cost us/them £52+ for this. We will still send in a EY2 for each new committee member then instead of sending them/us a disclosure when appropriate we will be directed to their online site for the DBS part and that is when the charges will kick in. TMG will charge 12.50 admin charge for volunteers & 55.60 for staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I think it sounds as if we all should be ringing Ofsted about this. It's ridiculous - surely the definition of a volunteer is someone who gives up their time for free, no matter what they are doing. As long as they don't get paid for being on the committee they are surly volunteers? Perhaps if we all shout loudly enough then they might hear us! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I'm beginning to lose the will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddlermaddness Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 I think it sounds as if we all should be ringing Ofsted about this. It's ridiculous - surely the definition of a volunteer is someone who gives up their time for free, no matter what they are doing. As long as they don't get paid for being on the committee they are surly volunteers? Perhaps if we all shout loudly enough then they might hear us! Could we not start a petition up to let them and the government know that we aren't happy about more money having to be spent out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 What? Petition this government asking for costs to be reduced to the working man or woman? Ok, I'll sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddlermaddness Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 What? Petition this government asking for costs to be reduced to the working man or woman? Ok, I'll sign it may not get us anywhere.. but if we don't stand up and shout then nothing will ever change :-( Im wiling to give it ago if anyone knows how to set up a petition online.. cos I haven't got a clue lol x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Well, theres a stumbling block, neither do I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I think you would need to be very sure of the facts first, then need to word the title carefully so as to rule out any ambiguity. When I have signed one of those online petitions I'm sure I have seen. 'Start your own' type of thing. I think bombarding Ofsted with questions is a reasonable start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Email them the same simple question or two and compare the responses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumperrabbit Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Still confused it doesn't take much! My CRB is approx. 8 years old we aren't allowed to do 'on-line' CRB applications as we don't have access to the internet on site so have to do paper CRB's My 'contract' is with Capita for employees So what if anything am I supposed to be doing now? As 'Registered person' am I meant to be registering the setting with the DBS? As an employee am I meant to be registering with DBS? Sorry to ask so many questions, but don't think my brain can take much more change at the moment! Or can I hide it all away and forget about it until we need to employ someone (which I very much doubt will ever happen with our numbers!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 https://www.gov.uk/disclosure-barring-service-check this is the best information I've seen so far. I've emailed Capita asking if staff need to renew crb and then register for dbs status check or if crbs older than 2 years can be checked as soon as they register. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Thank you. That states quite categorically that there is no charge for volunteers - like a voluntary committee member I would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Capita just replied: you need a new crb before you can register with dbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 rea thats the link ive already posted!! I have emailed the dbs service for some clarification but it can take up to 10 days to receive a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Was it :huh: Sorry, hadnt remembered, but it seemed so much better than the other sites I'd found :1b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Was it :huh: Sorry, hadnt remembered, but it seemed so much better than the other sites I'd found :1b so good we had to name it twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Theres precious little real information out there, its blo*dy typical, leave it to us to hunt down everything we should know. Without the FSF we'd be bug*ered 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowlow Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 actually if Ofsted are no longer paying or really checking up on committee's what happens to those of us who are mangers and were checked by ofsted? Do they still keep overall control of our checks or do we now have to go through the process of updating like everybody else. I was told that I could not get re-checked every three year like I do my staff as Ofsted have me on their system and they get automatically updated if there were any concerns about me. Which I have always found to be a little nuts as being the manager I would think I needed checking more carefully than anyone else. I tried to update myself any way and no one would do it!!! so again back to my question do Ofsted still cover me?? should and could I join update service especially seen as my CRB is about 5 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 the information on the ofsted website is that we do not need to be re-done and that the 3 year recheck is a myth! i haven't had my crb redone in 14 years! and been inspected many times in that period. Yes the manager and registered body will still be passed through ofsted and then passed on to the dbs service (for new members) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowlow Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 how strange my last ofsted they did check DBS information and they checked the dates!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I think it sounds as if we all should be ringing Ofsted about this. It's ridiculous - surely the definition of a volunteer is someone who gives up their time for free, no matter what they are doing. As long as they don't get paid for being on the committee they are surly volunteers? Perhaps if we all shout loudly enough then they might hear us! Haha - just noticed my gaffe! "Surly volunteers". Haha, I hope not! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowlow Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 lol not so sure Cait one of mine is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjcree Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Have just heard that Ofsted has backed down on this one - committee members will only have to pay admin fees 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Yes, apparently so. Read Sue's blog and confirmation of a letter from Ofsted here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I have just contacted TMG regarding a volunteer (student) starting in sept, so asked about committee members whilst on there, the volunteer can be done at a cost of £18 admin, but only if not gaining a qualification out of it, or enhancing their own cv (will be £56 if doing this, so now its down to my conscience ). As for the committee, you only need to crb check your officers as these usually make up the registered body, when i questioned why we didnt have to do all members now (this is what id always been led to believe by ofsted) i was told we'd never had to do all committee members, only if they were in once a week or more and left in a supervisory role with children did they have to have a crb check, but if we still want all our committee checked put them through as voluntary parent helpers to only pay for admin....so now im even more confused as i always thought the whole committee was the registered body ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lashes2508 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Hi Mouse - I queried this with ofsted only last week and was informed that all committee members must have a DBS or CRB ( as it was before ) as they all form part of the registered body whether or not they have any contact with the children , we have put all of ours through as volunteers as that what they are and we use capita and is £8.50, only if any of your committee members already hold an enhanced crb by ofsted within the last 3 months it will not need to be done again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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