Ratatat Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 I have read a document written by TACTYC (Association for the Professional Development of Early Years Educators) in response to the new Early Years Teachers' Standards. The Committee states: " How can one set of teachers claim to be as important as or equivalent to those with QTS, when by virtue of the fact that they do not have QTS they will be paid less, have different terms and conditions of service and have fewer career opportunities?" The full document is available to read on: http://www.tactyc.org.uk/pdfs/Teacher's%20Standards.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratatat Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 I read the following post on the petition today: I studied for several years, achieving a 1st class degree and a uni prize for excellence in education. I have been promoted within my setting but overlooked when a head of dept. job came available because of 'the teacher thing' - I am now helping a teacher to understand how the EYFS works as she takes on this role. The promised requirement of a graduate in every setting appears to have gone and managers jobs are advertised for Level 3's with salaries to match. I am now planning to leave Early Years so that I can get a salary that will pay the bills and improve my family's quality of life - not an easy decision but I have resigned myself to the fact that my skills and experience are worthless. The most shocking thing about all this is that all of my learning, my skills and my understanding were funded by the LEA/tax payer. What a scandalous waste. Why have you not invested just a little more to ensure that the money put into EY training was not a total waste. Ms Nutbrown suggested a simple conversion that would enable EYP's to gain QTS and so open up the job market and use their skills in the state sector, without risking their income and employment. It was a common sense solution and would have benefited children across all EY sectors. I am proud of the difference that my training has made to the children who have been in my care. I am ashamed that I have been a part of the shameful waste of skills, training and tax payers' money and now have no option but to leave the sector. The government should be ashamed too. Whatever has this country come to? Please, please sign the petition and join the campaign to fight for the practitioners who are most able to deliver the EYFS curriculum to our youngest children. http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/department-for-education-stop-discrimination-against-early-years-professionals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratatat Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 I read the following post on the petition today: I studied for several years, achieving a 1st class degree and a uni prize for excellence in education. I have been promoted within my setting but overlooked when a head of dept. job came available because of 'the teacher thing' - I am now helping a teacher to understand how the EYFS works as she takes on this role. The promised requirement of a graduate in every setting appears to have gone and managers jobs are advertised for Level 3's with salaries to match. I am now planning to leave Early Years so that I can get a salary that will pay the bills and improve my family's quality of life - not an easy decision but I have resigned myself to the fact that my skills and experience are worthless. The most shocking thing about all this is that all of my learning, my skills and my understanding were funded by the LEA/tax payer. What a scandalous waste. Why have you not invested just a little more to ensure that the money put into EY training was not a total waste. Ms Nutbrown suggested a simple conversion that would enable EYP's to gain QTS and so open up the job market and use their skills in the state sector, without risking their income and employment. It was a common sense solution and would have benefited children across all EY sectors. I am proud of the difference that my training has made to the children who have been in my care. I am ashamed that I have been a part of the shameful waste of skills, training and tax payers' money and now have no option but to leave the sector. The government should be ashamed too. Whatever has this country come to? Please, please sign the petition and join the campaign to fight for the practitioners who are most able to deliver the EYFS curriculum to our youngest children. http://www.change.or...s-professionals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I have already signed - but just felt moved to say what a 'sad tale' and what a waste of this ladies skills This Government has really pushed 'short-sightedness' to a whole new level :angry: where are we going to be in two years time - we have/are having a 'baby boom' - oh makes me very, very cross........ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Would it be possible to merge the 4 threads covering this into one as replies to the repeated posts got very confusing before across the 4 of them, and I keep looking at the different threads and find I'm reading the same things.... Cx 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratatat Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 Would it be possible to merge the 4 threads covering this into one as replies to the repeated posts got very confusing before across the 4 of them, and I keep looking at the different threads and find I'm reading the same things.... Cx I would be glad to do this but have no idea how. Do you have suitably easy instructions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratatat Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 I have already signed - but just felt moved to say what a 'sad tale' and what a waste of this ladies skills This Government has really pushed 'short-sightedness' to a whole new level :angry: where are we going to be in two years time - we have/are having a 'baby boom' - oh makes me very, very cross........ My thoughts precisely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Well Steve will be the man to ask no doubt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratatat Posted August 17, 2013 Author Share Posted August 17, 2013 I will see what he can do to help me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Right. I've merged all four threads, and I have gone through the resultant single thread to remove all of the posts that Ratatat cut and pasted between the various threads she started. Hopefully it now reads in some semblance of a reasoned argument building, but some of the posts might now be in a slightly strange order, due to chronological sorting. However, at least from here on in we can concentrate on just the one thread so it should be simpler for us all. If you find any other threads that need to be hidden to prevent confusion, just let one of the moderators know. :1b 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueFinanceManager Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Just for information I have just changed the title of this thread as per request. Regards, Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratatat Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) I have set up a petition to address this issue. Please sign if you are interested and feel free to share the link with any body you wish! At present, some training for ‘Early Years Teachers with QTS’ (e.g. Teach First) do not regard Early Childhood based degrees or Early Years Professional Status as relevant or equivalent core studies to apply for this training. These providers prefer applicants to have academic core study degrees such as Maths, French or History over specific studies relating to Child Development, etc. - and will not consider applications from Early Years Professionals or candidates with Early Years degrees. EYPs were promised that their ‘status’ would be equal though different to that of QTS. The DIFFERENCE is clearly that they will continue not to be valued as equal in financial terms. If qualified EYPs are not to be paid an equivalent rate to those with QTS then those that wish should be enabled to be fast-tracked to access free additional training to achieve QTS. It is unacceptable and damaging to the Early Years landscape that Early Childhood Specialists are discriminated in this way and the situation should be resolved with immediate effect. http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/department-for-education-stop-disc... The petition address has been amended following a small change to the title. It is now available at: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/department-for-education-please-address-the-inequality-between-early-years-teachers-eyps-or-eyts-and-teachers-with-qts The petition now has over 1000 signatures but needs further support to be addressed by the people in power! The Blog contains more detail about the campaign and can be viewed at:http://eyptrials.blogspot.co.uk/ Please feel free to share these links with your workmates, parents, study buddies, tutors and anyone you think may consider supporting this important issue. Edited September 17, 2013 by Ratatat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratatat Posted September 23, 2013 Author Share Posted September 23, 2013 DfE must act immediately to prevent Early Years Professionals being side-lined by Early Years Teachers http://www.nurseryworld.co.uk/article/1212915/eyps-denied-early-years-teacher-certificate?DCMP=EMC-CONNurseryWorldUpdate&bulletin=nursery-world-update-bulletin#! I have been looking at the article released today by Nursery World concerning the above equivalency question. I agree with Nikki Fairchild's statement that EYPs should focus on their particular strengths however, I am mindful that employers are very conscious of the need for value for money from their employees and will prefer that candidates are fully-trained to current standards (including developing knowledge of Key Stage 1 and the new set of standards). Do you agree that the DfE should make free, top-up training available to ensure that existing EYPs cannot become side-lined in this respect? REMINDER: This is the petition link for anyone who has become concerned about the lack of professional status, pay and working conditions of Early Years Professionals. http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/department-for-education-please-address-the-inequality-between-early-years-teachers-eyps-or-eyts-and-teachers-with-qts Please pass on this link to anyone who may be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratatat Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 In view of the on-going pay and status issues suffered by EYPs, I have been looking out for the release of the Training Places to be made available from September 2014 on the Salaried Schools Direct Scheme. It was very disappointing to discover that there will be NO Salaried Early Years Schools Direct training options in the UK available commencing September 2014 ! I have also heard from an EYP who successfully was offered an interview in a primary school for a Foundation Stage Teacher position but was then advised that she could not have the interview because she does not have QTS! How can that be fair? Sooo frustrating! Now make sure that EYPs/EYTs get the status and pay they have earned by signing the petition: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/department-for-education-please-address-the-inequality-between-early-years-teachers-eyps-or-eyts-and-teachers-with-qts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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