Guest Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Who out there thinks that Oftsed will replace their SEF with new format? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fimbo Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 please nooooooooooooo........ just spent my easter hols completing it !! - - but thinking logically, they probably will :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Who out there thinks that Oftsed will replace their SEF with new format? I'm sure that I have read or heard about that somewhere........ :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I had to make lots of changes to our SEF when they altered it last time, I have just updated it and am expecting an inspection soon so I will ask the nice man/lady and see if they know :-) Carol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I just have a feeling especially with the new style inspections. I too got caught out like that last time. Any inside info greatly received many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devondaisy Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Has anyone heard any more about this? The SEF is on my 'to do' list (and has been for a year!!) I would be extremely grumpy to do it now, only for them to change it, but it will be 4 years since our last inspection in the autumn term, so I really do need to tackle it soon! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Has anyone heard any more about this? The SEF is on my 'to do' list (and has been for a year!!) I would be extremely grumpy to do it now, only for them to change it, but it will be 4 years since our last inspection in the autumn term, so I really do need to tackle it soon! Oh good point.......no I haven't heard anymore.......hmmmm - mine needs an update .......would hate to spend time doing it if it is about to change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumperrabbit Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I'm on my training in 2 weeks I'll ask, unless anyone has any training before me?? I haven't touched mine sine the day I finished it, so wouldn't mind a revised version, wonder if they'll take out the repetition in that too, or is that asking too much?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I was informed the SEF is being renewed !! It will be done sometime in August !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Oh........where did you get this inside info.? :1b I had planned to update mine in July - ahhhhh could be just the excuse that I need to just not bother!!! :blink: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjayne Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I also was told by my Advisory Teacher that the SEF was changing in line with the new EYFS in September and would be more 'user friendly' so I am leaving off doing it until the new one is live - never did complete the old one ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 thank you for that x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Ofsted inspectors are receiving training in July/August for the revised EYFS and new inspection framework. New inspections will start on September 3rd :1b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 We were told at our managers briefing today that in ofsted's words it will be 'chaotic' to begin with as they cut and paste our exsiting sef into the new version as most of it will be very different headings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblejack Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Well all I can say is "Good" I am glad it will be chaotic for Ofsted, serves them right for changing the curriculum every few years.now they may understand what it feels like to have to keep updating paperwork. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 That's a bit harsh Bubblejack Ofsted don't play any role in changing the curriculum! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueJ Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Had a briefing from our LA last night with Ofsted updates!!!!!!!!!! New SEF format (more streamlined apparantly) early 2013 - allegedly the contents from existing SEF will be transferred by Ofsted but will need editing after the transfer Ofsted inspections will be on a 47 month cycle (good or outstanding) apparantly they haven't decided on the exact cycle for satisfactory settings but probably 18 months to 2 years Ofsted inspections will last between 3+ hours to 6+ hours depending on setting size The registered person must have a working knowledge of the EYFS in order to ensure that the nominated person/manager in charge of the setting is delivering it appropriately (don't know how this will impact committe groups where the registered person is often a lay person) The manager/registered person will have a 1 hour interview with the inspector at the beginning of the inspection covering ratios, policies etc. The manager/registered person will have the opportunity to join the inspector in a "joint observation" lasting about 45 minutes - our LA say this is not compulsory but would recommend it as it is your chance to make sure that the inspector "sees and understands from your perspective what they are seeing" Complaints made against a setting to Ofsted will trigger a full inspection if Ofsted consider the complaint warrants it During the inspection the inspector will use "Ofstedspeak" and talk about what they are seeing in terms of "oh this is good" or "oh this is outstanding" to give you a flavour of the likely outcome Feedback at the end as usual Providers will not have conditions imposed on their registration and they are currently being removed - providers must justify their operating decisions and how they meet statutory regulations e.g, if you want to have 15 babies and you staff it appropriately and have the square meterage to do so ofsted will not say you can only have 6 babies Childminders will have to have (I think it was said) a level 3 qualification in place before registration will be granted Chilminders with assistants will not be able to leave their assistants alone for a period exceeding 2 hours - if they do then the assistant must also have (I think it was said) a level 3 qualification Thats what I can remember off the top of my head - the briefing notes we were given have been taken by my deputy to digest over the weekend as she lives in fear that I won't be in when an inspector calls :lol: Given that the registered/nominated person needs to meet with the inspector at the beginning of the inspection it is a bit rich to keep insisting on no notice inspections - it will also mean taking someone out of ratios (unless you are supernumerary) - allegedly Ofsted will sympathetic - that'll be a first. As someone who had their last inspection in December 2008 I suspect that we will be in the first wave of hits - Oh Joy - Oh Bliss - :blink: :blink: :blink: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Thanks Sue - that's really useful info. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mukerjee1 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Thanks Sue - really useful info...now to lie down in darkened cupboard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimms o'clock? Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Had a briefing from our LA last night with Ofsted updates!!!!!!!!!! Sue could I ask where you are, your Local Authority appear to be very helpful in providing so much useful information I only wish mine would do the same. Its just not necessary to keep us in the dark why can't they drop us an email cos I'm guessing if yours have been informed by Ofsted then ours are likely to have been told the same. More importantly, thank you very much for passing this on - I do appreciate it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyfs1966 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Yes Sue, a huge thanks from me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Thanks from me too, really good information to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Thanks Sue really imformative, I am on implementing eyfs on 3rd will ask about new style inspections then unless (thinking aloud here) there might be some training on our online (Kent) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Thanks Sue really imformative, I am on implementing eyfs on 3rd will ask about new style inspections then unless (thinking aloud here) there might be some training on our online (Kent) Thanks Sue really imformative, I am on implementing eyfs on 3rd will ask about new style inspections then unless (thinking aloud here) there might be some training on our online (Kent) Had a look Sue but cant see anything on CPD online - I have my implementing EYFS next week so will ask. We had our OFSTED last year, but this month moved premises and will obviously have another one - it seems even more daunting, we received an OUTSTANDING, I just wonder if we can maintain it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 ok we will ask together nannie mcphee Bet we get different answers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anju Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Only just seen this post - very useful information - thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 We moved premises 15 months ago and still not inspected so don't expect too much nannymcphie. I don't have an ofsted sef, was going to update but was a bit worried that it may flag up that we still exist lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 went on my traiing and Ofsted have not published their new style inspections yet, our trainer said it would have been useful for this training if they had she also added when i asked that at the min their was no plans for training but maybe when it is published they will and it might be through the twighllight sessions we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lashes2508 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 just catching up with missed stuff - so thanks for updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest youngrisers Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 we update our SEf every year at a training /inset meeting but found that the new format needs to add info regarding so much more how is this less paperwork and typing. feel I am doing an OFSTEd inspectors job now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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