Emmawill Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Hi Can someone please show me where exactly it states it is a legal requirement to have a third in charge, I have run preschools and nurseries for 20 years and have not been aware its legal, I was of the understanding that it is personal choice of the nursery owner/manager but I am being told otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louby loo Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) I think it's just good practice? I've only just nominated a 3rd in charge (because I now want more time off) But there has ALWAYS been myself or deputy in, most of the time both of us. (Term-time preschool) Edited July 22, 2019 by louby loo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Really Emma this is news to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 have just read through the new inspection framework (yawn!) can't seem to find it in there! If I was away from the setting my deputy is in charge ...I wouldn't want to nominate another as both my other staff are similarly qualified...might cause some issues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrower Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I've never heard that this was a legal requirement. If it was, it would be in the EYFS. I just have a deputy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliceinWonderland Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Never heard of it being a legal thing, I do have a third in charge as staff work shifts and then it is clear who is in charge at each end of the day if I'm not in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Blimey never heard of this one. I couldn’t nominate a third in charge as my third and fourth members are not qualified enough. What about settings that only have two staff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 7/22/2019 at 17:07, Emmawill said: Hi Can someone please show me where exactly it states it is a legal requirement to have a third in charge, I have run preschools and nurseries for 20 years and have not been aware its legal, I was of the understanding that it is personal choice of the nursery owner/manager but I am being told otherwise. definitely beginning to sound like you might have been given duff advice!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, finleysmaid said: definitely beginning to sound like you might have been given duff advice!! D'you think we need to ask where this advice has come from? no, I don't either...…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 58 minutes ago, sunnyday said: D'you think we need to ask where this advice has come from? no, I don't either...…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louby loo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I shall ask my LA advisor if this is true - oh wait we don't have visits anymore.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, louby loo said: I shall ask my LA advisor if this is true - oh wait we don't have visits anymore.... Be careful what you wish for...…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hali Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, sunnyday said: Be careful what you wish for...…. Sunny please we are not all bad!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, hali said: Sunny please we are not all bad!!!! Oh hali, I know, I quite like mine as it goes and you, of course must be wonderful in your role 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmawill Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 hours ago, finleysmaid said: I would love to say but cannot to many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmawill Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 Thanks Ladies, it has ha me questioning my knowledge, I have actually contacted ofsted to as to cover myself and was told that it is not a requirement. Just got try to convince someone otherwise now!! as it will bring nothing but trouble to a setting that I am only just seeing a light at the end of the tunnel in with having taken it over with horrendous staffing issues and low morale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 43 minutes ago, Emmawill said: Thanks Ladies, it has ha me questioning my knowledge, I have actually contacted ofsted to as to cover myself and was told that it is not a requirement. Just got try to convince someone otherwise now!! as it will bring nothing but trouble to a setting that I am only just seeing a light at the end of the tunnel in with having taken it over with horrendous staffing issues and low morale. maybe ask where they got the info from as you would like to check it???doubt they are going to be able to provide you with evidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrower Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 It sounds like you have a lot on your plate Emmawill. I hope you get it sorted. There are lots of us here to lend an ear and/or answer questions - just ask! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louby loo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 hours ago, hali said: Sunny please we are not all bad!!!! to be honest I have no problem with ours... they just don't visit anymore. We don't seem to have update briefings anymore either We're just left to get on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hali Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I know a lot of LAs are the same - luckily we are hanging in on there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) Well I feel very honoured having had my visit from two of them last week. 🤪. I happen to like both of them as well as they are ‘real’ and don’t come up with lots of flowery ideas that you just know will not work! I actually find the annual visit very useful. Edited July 25, 2019 by zigzag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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