Guest Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 If you are wanting to employ and you are completing a crb check , do you make the potential employee pay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panders Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 (edited) I am considering this at the moment too,I. Am inclined to pass the cost on at the moment, if someone is serious about working they will do it, however in case of hardship Iwill pay I think Edited September 21, 2013 by Panders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredbear Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Now that's funny was thinking of asking my forum friends the very same thing. I have just completed and verified two, one the setting has paid for as a new member of staff, but the other was for a student and they have paid themselves( reduced rate). Not tempting fate but we really don't have a high turnover of staff, so if we can pay we will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfinch Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I have just completed one and have decided, after careful thought,to expect staff to pay for their own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louby loo Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I'm thinking we will pay initially - but it will be taken out of final pay-packet when/if they leave? Will need to be written into contract, but seems a fair way to do it to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredbear Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 (edited) I suppose as they remain the property of the said person and can now go with them maybe we should consider this too. Thank you for your suggestion lobby loo. Oops that should have said louby Edited September 21, 2013 by Fredbear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfinch Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 (edited) They only go with them if you/ they pay £13 per year on top of the initial £51 ish for the check. You also have to sign up to this within 14 days I think it is of receiving the certificate (Capita) otherwise you loose the chance for this service and would then have to pay the full price again next time... Edited September 21, 2013 by Greenfinch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 This is not for staff already employed, that is another issue or thought but for people who you would employ subject to references and a clear enhanced check. If we pay and it comes back not ok, it could work out to be an expensive time. I am just revamping my recruitment policies etc ( luckily we don't have to higher change over of staff) and I just wondered what others did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredbear Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Yes that's right Greenfinch. Not sure where this is all going to end, as a charity preschool we are being squeezed at every corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Does anyone know what the final word ( if there was one) is on committee members paying full fee or just admin ? Thinking we should change our constitution to minimum members, then have 'friends of committee' who can be called upon to help out at fundraisers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Sorry don't know but surely com. Members are voluntary ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowlow Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 This is a tough one Suer and we are thinking about this at the moment. Due to circumstance we are looking at employing someone for a temporary post for a year as we need the help now but may not in a years time. We have always paid in the past for full contract employees and think we may still in this case as it benefits us so to speak and to be honest however much I wanted a job I really couldn't afford the price of a DBS check, so I tend to be soft and think everybody is the same as me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Sorry don't know but surely com. Members are voluntary ? when the DBS first came in Ofsted wouldn't class committee members as volunteers, as they are the registered body and therefore the 'owners' of the setting....not sure if they've had a rethink on this yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 when the DBS first came in Ofsted wouldn't class committee members as volunteers, as they are the registered body and therefore the 'owners' of the setting....not sure if they've had a rethink on this yet. O this is harsh when a lot of the members are usually unpaid and often parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 'We were therefore deeply disappointed in January to have to take unprecedented action to strike off a Registered Body for knowingly submitting inappropriate volunteer applications. We also referred its Lead Signatory to the police. DBS will not tolerate misuse of our free volunteer checks'. this is in the gov dbs site that you get directed to from ofsted site....so don't want to get it wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I think I read the PLA announced trustees were now free after Ofsted, DfE and capita had talks about it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Omg mouse that is awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Thanks Rea, common sense prevails, so just admin fee then, thats not so bad I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredbear Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yes just checked again on Ofsted site just Admin fee with Capita. : Just admin fee for us could still amount to another £60.00 to £100.00 per year to find, it's pay pay payout all the time lately, can you tell from my post I'm getting a little deflated by it all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblejack Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Can you help please. I need to do a d.b.s for a student. Can you give me the link please, many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Sent my new committee members off on the ofsted/capita link to complete there checks......not till they get to stage 3 does it mention you need to have your login name and password to continue from your application........so I phone ofsted to ask what password ? What application ? Isn't that the application ? To be told NO the EY2 aaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhhhhh so still need to print out hundreds of pages to get the few relevant parts for each new member before even starting on DBS application.......this of course is going to take even longer than before it did already and they'll prob be about to leave again by the time it's completed and could it not flash up in big red letters at the start 'before proceeding have you submitted an EY2 and received your log in details' ....for idiots like me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Can you help please. I need to do a d.b.s for a student. Can you give me the link please, many thanks you will need to process the students application through your normal provider (TMG/CAPITA etc) and follow your normal proceedure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Do we have to crb long term students. Cant find anything that says we do. What do others do regarding students? buttercup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblejack Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 So we can still use TMG then Finleysmaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 So we can still use TMG then Finleysmaid. yes for 'normal ' employees ...not for committee/trustees etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredbear Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Hi we have just completed a DBS for a student with Capita, unfortunately we have had to ask students to pay themselves now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Mouse, I have an AGM and several new committee members, do you have the link to the EY2 ? I assumed as well, new members would now apply for the DBS as listed on the Ofsted page. Confused ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korkycat Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I emailed Ofsted and they replied 'In response to your enquiry any new committee members that are joining the provision will need to complete the EY2 form: http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/resources/childcare-registration-form-declaration-and-consent-form-for-all-individuals-connected-registered-pr Following the receipt of the EY2 forms, each individual will be sent information on how to complete the DBS check.' Hope that helps korkycat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 It doesn't help that if you start at ofsted homepage follow link to Early Years, the next link is 'changes to DBS formerly CRB' that link takes you straight to ofsted/capita ....steps 1,2,3 it seems to have completely omitted to mention that the EY2 is still required, I stupidly thought the new DBS check was instead of not as well as Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynned55 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 No it's as well as. I am still waiting to be sent a 'ref number' which ofsted insisted was on the letter they sent telling my new chair what to do (it wasn't) So all in all, this whole thing is taking so much longer than before. Luckily it is committee members i am trying to get done and not people who are in with the children. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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