fimbo Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 i was informed today by a committee member, that from 2012 an ofsted inspector will not be able to give any setting they inspect a good or above if a level 5 or above is not employed in the setting. we were recently inspected and given a rating of good - we do not emply any L5 staff and cannot afford to train anyone up, or employ someone at that level - does this mean the next time we are inpsected we will not be able to acheive a rating of good soley because we do not have a L5 ??? if anyone can direct me to some solid evidence of this i would be very, very grateful xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I haven't heard of this fimbo, and I must admit my first port of call would be to go back to the committee member and ask where this information came from! Your local authority early years team should also be able to let you know if they've heard anything - I imagine they would be top of the list of those to be informed because they are charged with ensuring there is enough quality childcare to meet parents' needs. If this statutory responsibility is threatened by a lack of level 5s locally then they will need to develop some kind of strategy to ensure there are enough suitably qualified practitioners to go round! I'd be surprised if this is actually true though, given that the aspiration to have the Level 3 as a minimum qualification for childcare workers hasn't actually been set in stone yet. It makes more sense to me to achieve that target than to push one person in each setting to gain a Level 5. Given that there are 7000 EYPs at the moment, I'd say it will take a long time for every setting to grow their own Level 5! That said, I have no idea how many individual group day care settings there are! I stand to be corrected though, and I'll be interested to see what responses you get to your post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 i was informed today by a committee member, that from 2012 an ofsted inspector will not be able to give any setting they inspect a good or above if a level 5 or above is not employed in the setting. we were recently inspected and given a rating of good - we do not emply any L5 staff and cannot afford to train anyone up, or employ someone at that level - does this mean the next time we are inpsected we will not be able to acheive a rating of good soley because we do not have a L5 ??? if anyone can direct me to some solid evidence of this i would be very, very grateful xx News to me fimbo! - really can't see it myself......as Maz said - would love to know where this came from..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fimbo Posted June 13, 2011 Author Share Posted June 13, 2011 all i can find is the ofsted 'guidance for inspectors august 2010' and this states is a relevant L3, i will give this to the committee and will ask the person who informed them of this where on earth they got their information from. my understanding was that 'at one time' there were plans afoot to try to get a L4 in each setting -but my understanding is that is not yet a requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louby loo Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Well we'll be snookered. Our LA have just stop funding the level 5s!!!!.....and I can't see any of our staff 'self funding' Would this be anything to do with move to have graduate levels in Full Daycare settings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inge Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 sounds to me like one of those myths that has grown and got a bit out of hand... at some point there was the need of an EYP in every full daycare setting by 2015 I think - always a possibility that this has been interpreted and changed over time.. I would ask where she 'heard' it and from whom.. reminds me of one a few years back.. you will not get outstanding if you do not do the Ofsted SEF, which is totally untrue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hali Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 i've not heard anything like that either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) I've just completed L5 and we were told that that from 2014 each setting will need a L5 staff member or on a consultancy basis - I have contacts with 3 other local pre-schools none of which have a L5 so I'm getting my foot in the door for a consultancy role! to add that those who have input from their LEA where the EYIO are qualified are covered I think! Edited July 20, 2011 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristina Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I just wanted to say I am due to start my level 5 in September and my course is being funded by Student Finance Uk, and provided my salary never exceeds £15,000 (we are a term time only pre-school so not going to happen!) I don't have to pay the money back. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone was interested but needed the funding. Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyfs1966 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I have never heard of this either!! Did hear about the Level 6 being required (QTS or EYPS) requirement, but even that was for full day care first, then would only move to settings on 20 plus hrs per week, and has never included settings below 20 hrs. But L5? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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