cathrich Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Are there any pre-school people out there who would be willing to share their operational file index/contents page or tell me how they set it out? I'm panicking and Ofsted due any day!!! I have done a search but I'm just so confused with it all. ANY help would be really appreciated. Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 cathrich I'm sure there have been discussions about operational plans on here before - try doing a forum search (click on the blue sausage shape at the top right of the screen). Good luck - and try not to panic too much! Maz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathrich Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 Yes I did look at previous posts but didn't find anything to help me. Didn't find Devon website very helpful :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Try here There's a lot in this thread which should help you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 There's a lot in this thread which should help you That's the one I was thinking of Cait, thanks. Was this the one you looked at cathrich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hali Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 good luck im sure you will do fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel10 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hi I have just had to put one together for Quilt, I got some ideas from the forum and the Devon website. Basically, I put copies of policies, staff, committee, trustee contacts, contracts, and any other templates so that anyone could run the setting if I wasn't there. It would have been really nice to have one of these when I took over as Supervisor two years ago. It would have made the whole process a lot easier. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathrich Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 Thank you for your replies - I will see where I get too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 'Quilt' ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hi everyone, Could I just ask, regarding the operational plan, is it an ofsted requirement to have one or is it just 'good practice' ? My leader mentioned it this morning and to be quite honest, I'd never heard of one. I knew exactly where to go to seek help and guidance, so here I am ! Who is the plan supposed to benefit? If you have all your paperwork up to date and everyone knows where to find them, surely this is just duplicating information yet again and causing even more paperwork! But then no matter what we do, it never seems to be enough for Ofsted. Aren't we all just getting a little tired of having to prove ourselves all the time, right down to the last dot on the i and the cross on the t. (sorry for rant, it's one of those days)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Are there any pre-school people out there who would be willing to share their operational file index/contents page or tell me how they set it out? I'm panicking and Ofsted due any day!!! I have done a search but I'm just so confused with it all. ANY help would be really appreciated. Many thanks This is how we set ours out. Enjoying_and_achieving___index.doc Being_healthy___index.doc Organisation___index.doc Staying_safe___index.doc Making_a_positive_contribution.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathrich Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 This is how we set ours out. Enjoying_and_achieving___index.doc Being_healthy___index.doc Organisation___index.doc Staying_safe___index.doc Making_a_positive_contribution.doc Thank you SO much for this. I have found it really useful and base mine on it if ok with you?? This may sound really thick but in the information column - what do the numbers relate to? Cx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Could I just ask, regarding the operational plan, is it an ofsted requirement to have one or is it just 'good practice' ? As I understand it, Esme there is no requirement to have an operational plan and as you say so long as all your paperwork complies with the EYFS and everyone knows how it all works (and where it all is) then that should be sufficient. I don't have an operational plan but am seriously thinking of making one just so (a) everything is in the one place and ( if I were to go under a bus tomorrow people wouldn't have to scrabble around working out where everything is and how it all works! Sorry you're having a day when you need to rant - but there's no better place for a rant than here! Maz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hali Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 im with you there M havnt got one - but as others hve said might be worth doing one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 im with you there M havnt got one - but as others hve said might be worth doing one! Will you put your SEF in there, hali? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hali Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 oh goodness dont ... going to take months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Caithrich Glad my operational plan is of help. Of course you may use the format, we did from someone else!!! If you look in your national standards book that we used to work to they are organised into standards. Therefore standard 1 is suitable person. Under section 1 there are sub sections, in this case 1.1 - 1.4. So for standard 1 suitable person you need to prove in 1.1 - 1.3 all about the registered person and staff and 1.4 is about qualifications. It should be clear if you have the national standards book. I hope that helps, or is it now as clear as mud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Sorry don't know why, my previous post has included all my indexes again. This forum is doing some very bizarre things to me at the moment It doesn't always let me 'view new posts' and now it is 'quoting' things i dont want it to. Enjoying_and_achieving___index.doc Being_healthy___index.doc Organisation___index.doc Staying_safe___index.doc Making_a_positive_contribution.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathrich Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Caithrich Glad my operational plan is of help. Of course you may use the format, we did from someone else!!! If you look in your national standards book that we used to work to they are organised into standards. Therefore standard 1 is suitable person. Under section 1 there are sub sections, in this case 1.1 - 1.4. So for standard 1 suitable person you need to prove in 1.1 - 1.3 all about the registered person and staff and 1.4 is about qualifications. It should be clear if you have the national standards book. I hope that helps, or is it now as clear as mud Ahhhhhh....thank you for your explanantion. I have to say I don't know too much about the National Standards as I'm quite new to all this! Thank you again! I know what I'll be doing this weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Why can't I download Brenda's attachments today? I looked at one the other day and brought my file home to check ours against those and now I can't open them. Please will someone upload them again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 At our SEF seminar yesterday they suggested using the format of the Self Evaluation Form as the basis of your Operational Plan. In that way, when Mrs O comes to look for your evidence it will all be linked into the judgements you made on your SEF. On balance, I think that's what I shall be doing - that way I'll be doing two jobs at once... Maz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Hmm, well I suppose it should be, really. They are both about the same set of standards after all. Good thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Hi I recently had my suitable persons interview and the ofsted inspector did ask to see the operational plan, so althrough someone said its not a requirement, i think i may be now. I showed her the one the compay did, but it was not enough and she asked me to redo it, so i would suggest to everyone to do one!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Hi Cait - I don't think there's anything wrong with the attachments. I'm opening them up ok. Brenda - sometimes the view new topics feature has problems on some PCs, we've never managed to get to the bottom of it as it's not possible to replicate it on PCs that don't have the problem. But with regard to quoting previous posts, this happens if you click the 'wrong' add reply button. If you click the 'add reply' directly underneath a post the system assumes you want to directly reply to that post and includes the original text from that post. You can get over that in two ways: 1 - Use the large Add Reply button at the bottom of the page of posts 2 - just delete the quoted text as you see it in the dialogue box when composing your reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beau Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Sorry don't know why, my previous post has included all my indexes again. This forum is doing some very bizarre things to me at the moment It doesn't always let me 'view new posts' and now it is 'quoting' things i dont want it to. Brenda, I can't see anything odd in your recent post - perhaps you could clarify what exactly seems to be the problem? I'm sure Steve will look into the 'view new posts' issue and reply when he has completed his investigation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beau Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Wow - talk about efficient! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Only sometimes Carol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Oh I can now - must have been a temporary glitch. Thanks Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tess Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Hi can I ask a silly question. Does the operational plan have to one big file or can I have an index as to where find the information. I seem to have seperate files with lots of info in and then duplicate it again for the operational plan - which does seem stupid. I am sure I was advised by Ofsted have seperate is fine - especially a sit is seen as working documents, but my PLA PDW always expects one or two huge doorstops you can't lift - let alone use. What does everyone else have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Well surely as long as you can justify he reasoning behind it you can do what you like! They are your documents after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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