Guest Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 well ive read it but im a little confused..............do we still use IEP's or do i need to replace them/rename them? Has anyone updated thier sen policy to reflect the new CoP yet as im needing to do that too and could do with some advice as struggling with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 well, in all my Education Health Care Plans,it states that the child will have an IEP... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Unlike the old Code of Practice, IEPs aren't mentioned specifically but it's very clear that records must be kept and in chapter 5 (Early Years) it says under Plan: The practitioner and the SENCO should agree, in consultation with the parent, the outcomes they are seeking, the interventions and support to be put in place, the expected impact on progress, development or behaviour and a clear date for review. That sounds like an IEP to me although you could also use a more user friendly Play Plan or One Page Profile (link below) http://www.helensandersonassociates.co.uk/reading-room/how/person-centred-thinking/one-page-profiles.aspx I'm not a huge fan of IEPs because they don't really capture the child's personality, strengths and needs and are often kept on a shelf. They also tend to focus on what the child needs to do rather than what we need to do to remove barriers to learning. I'd wait to see what your Local Authority advises. The DfE has made it clear that next term is a transitional term (from the old to the new code) and we're not expected to have everything in place immediately. Kate, was your local authority one of the pathfinders and that's why you have children with Education, Health and Care Plans? I wondered how you found the process and if parents found it easier. The Statutory Framework for the EYFS (September 2014) has removed the need for an SEN Policy but on page 30 it says that: providers must make the following information available to parents and/or carers - how the setting supports children with special educational needs and disabilities. This sounds like a policy to me but if it's specifically for parents it should be user friendly. At least the process in the new code is easier to explain as Early Years Action and Action Plus have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 thanks for the link ....really usefull ideas there :1b im just goin to update my iep to include more info and call it a personal plan and head it with 'supporting children receiving SEN support'...cant go wrong then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflowers Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 im just goin to update my iep to include more info and call it a personal plan and head it with 'supporting children receiving SEN support'...cant go wrong then I think we will call them Learning Support Plans as we have Behaviour Support Plans. (All children have an individual / personal plan for education, but not an Individual Education Plan or Personal Plan.) I would be interested in knowing what you discover needs adding, after going through the new Code of Practise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 oooooo i could call it the sen support plan thanx for the inspiration wildflowers!!!!!! As for a quick look at content...... it has got childs name, dob, iep number, date started, review date, stage of sen, what the child needs help with, their strengths, the targets, who will help and how, how it will be known if been successful, how the child got on, parents views and signature, senco signature .....................so to update it to the new code of practice ill be taking out stages of sen, wording related to targets will be changed to outcomes desired, iep number to plan number, the rest will stay the same but i will add in ...interventions and support in place and expected impact on progress/developmet/behaviour,....................i think lol ill post a copy when i get round to doin it along with my new draft sen policy....maybe i could get some feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflowers Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 'SEN Support Plan' is better than 'Learning Support Plan' as everyone's learning is getting planned support. Thanks! 'Intended outcomes' or 'intended effects' perhaps, instead of 'desired outcomes'? 'Interventions and support in place' and 'expected impact on progress / development / behaviour' - are they from the new SEND CoP? We don't have those in our old IEPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshaD Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 If we're sharing I attach a copy of my additional needs policy, it's based upon the NDNA one. Bit nervous about this - feels like reading out your work in class. Feedback appreciated Additional Needs Policy.docx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflowers Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Thanks so very much Marsha. I've begun to read... and a first question appears - 'additional needs' or 'special educational needs'? You use 'additional needs'. Does it matter which we use / choose? You write that you will meet children's specific requirements. Knowing that we may not get the / any funding for the assistance and equipment some children need, I wouldn't be able to put that in our policy. You also will provide and maintain a group of well-trained and experienced staff. Small settings like ours, or any, may have difficulty guaranteeing that suitable staff will be available to meet a child's needs adequately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 If we're sharing I attach a copy of my additional needs policy, it's based upon the NDNA one. Bit nervous about this - feels like reading out your work in class. Feedback appreciated Additional Needs Policy.docx Thank you for sharing Marsha - I haven't read yet - bit early for my brain yet! :1b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 thanks Marsgad and sunnyday for sharing :1b ....i too thought it was special educational needs rather that additional needs. 'SEN Support Plan' is better than 'Learning Support Plan' as everyone's learning is getting planned support. Thanks!'Intended outcomes' or 'intended effects' perhaps, instead of 'desired outcomes'?'Interventions and support in place' and 'expected impact on progress / development / behaviour' - are they from the new SEND CoP? We don't have those in our old IEPs. great teamwork going on here wildflowers ive now changed 'desired' to 'intended' it does sound better!and yes the extra bits are from the new CoP attached what i have so far, let me know your thoughts and feel free to be critical will only help us get it right!!!!! oh ok ............ how do i attach things :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 You go to add a reply - more reply options, and there's a bit there for attaching. Give it a try 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 lol thanks cait.....had brain freeze moment (hardly suprising) well this is what i have.....all feedback/thoughts/critics welcome SEN policy.docx SEN Support Plan.docx SEN Support Review.docx SEN Support Plan-Recording Sheet.docx :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Great stuff I will look at those on the laptop later as iPad doesn't like docx files. By the way, if you save the files as .doc - the old Word format, it makes it easier for folk with older computer systems to view them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 hmmm not very technical minded im afraid cait but will look later....right now im off for a well deserved cuppa.....and await feedback lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflowers Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 MarshaD - you are mentioning CAFs in your policy. I sent a mail to our InCo asking about those. She replied that "these have now been replaced by a referral to an Early Help Hub and subsequent action." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 hmmm not very technical minded im afraid cait but will look later....right now im off for a well deserved cuppa.....and await feedback lol It's very simple, just click on 'save as' in the drop down menu from the windows logo in the top left corner, and choose 'word 93-97' (I think it's called) and it saves it as a .doc file. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 MarshaD - you are mentioning CAFs in your policy. I sent a mail to our InCo asking about those. She replied that "these have now been replaced by a referral to an Early Help Hub and subsequent action." So does CAF not exist any more? How do we access these new help forms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflowers Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I spent so much time a couple of summers ago writing policies and procedures about CAFs, gathering forms etc so feel rather frustrated. As with so much for us regarding SEN and complex health needs we have never used our policies. (In my ten years of managing a setting I've never had an enquiry from a parent of a child with a special educational or complex health need.) My understanding is that we have to have everything in writing about what we would do, to be prepared. So I read and write, then the policies must be changed before I've used them! I wish I could write something like "when a child with additional needs joins our setting we will seek relevant information to ensure adequate provision". By the way, would that be acceptable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne123 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 So does CAF not exist any more? How do we access these new help forms? In our area the CAF (common assessment framework) has been replaced by the FSP (family support process) Joanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Oh right. I don't think I have heard about this. In fact our safeguarding lead went on a training last month and was told CAF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshaD Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I haven't quite digested all the comments yet. I recently went to safeguarding training and they said CAFs were still in operation where we are at least. So can't help on that score but will check it out. I just use the term additional needs because in my opinion its more inclusive, but I don't really think that matters as such. Thanks for sharing suemars will have a look at later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblejack Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 In my area CAF still exists but its an abbreviated version. It is now sent to MASH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joanne123 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) lol thanks cait.....had brain freeze moment (hardly suprising) well this is what i have.....all feedback/thoughts/critics welcome SEN policy.docx SEN Support Plan.docx SEN Support Review.docx SEN Support Plan-Recording Sheet.docx :unsure: Thank you for sharing your hard work Joanne Edited August 14, 2014 by Joanne123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 lol thanks cait.....had brain freeze moment (hardly suprising) well this is what i have.....all feedback/thoughts/critics welcome SEN policy.docx SEN Support Plan.docx SEN Support Review.docx SEN Support Plan-Recording Sheet.docx :unsure: Thank you for sharing your hard work Joanne no problem joanne, hope it helps...im hoping to get some feedback with regards to any improvements i could make or if ive missed anything etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 lol thanks cait.....had brain freeze moment (hardly suprising) well this is what i have.....all feedback/thoughts/critics welcome SEN policy.docx SEN Support Plan.docx SEN Support Review.docx SEN Support Plan-Recording Sheet.docx :unsure: Thank you very much for sharing - haven't read yet - will do soon :1b 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflowers Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I'm reading and adapting your policies to our setting Marsha and Sue. I'm finding minor things to wordings etc and mistakes (e.g. inconsistency with capitals at start of sentences in lists) - things I would mention if you sat next to me here. With regards to contents I don't feel competent to suggest improvements, so I'm using without giving back... Sorry! A question: Should we use 'SEN' in our policy or 'SEND'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I'm reading and adapting your policies to our setting Marsha and Sue. I'm finding minor things to wordings etc and mistakes (e.g. inconsistency with capitals at start of sentences in lists) - things I would mention if you sat next to me here. With regards to contents I don't feel competent to suggest improvements, so I'm using without giving back... Sorry! A question: Should we use 'SEN' in our policy or 'SEND'? glad its usefull to you and thankyou for being honest about the errors, i have proof read it since posting it and changed some mistakes so hopefully got them all. as far as sen or send...ive gone with what it uses in the code of practice which is mainly sen and i have put in my first reference before abreviating it anywhere 'special educaitional needs and disability (SEN) so hopefully that covers me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 lol thanks cait.....had brain freeze moment (hardly suprising) well this is what i have.....all feedback/thoughts/critics welcome SEN policy.docx SEN Support Plan.docx SEN Support Review.docx SEN Support Plan-Recording Sheet.docx :unsure: Thanks for sharing. I've just downloaded and will read later on tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshaD Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Hi Suemars Had a look through these now - thanks. I'm planning to 'borrow' your support plan if that's ok. The only thing I would add would be a box to say 'what I'm good at' to capture child's strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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