Guest Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Hi Is there anyone who has had a medical for ofsted. I have been working as manager at my setting for 7 months,I was the deputy before this. I worked at another setting as manager in 2006 and had a suitable persons interview with ofsted and passed. I had to fill in a health declaration form then all was well. I had to fill in a new one for the preschool where I am working now nothings changed health wise. At the weekend I recieved a letter saying I have to go to a medical. I have been working in childcare for nearly 9 years.Very confused. Dorinda Quote
Cait Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Ooh, no not one of these - just the forms, as you say Quote
Upsy Daisy Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Have they given you no indication of why they want one? Quote
korkycat Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 No medical either. My Dr wrote that she hadn't seen me for years officially but she'd seen me about town. Ofsted seemed to accept that! It did cost us £50 for her to fill in the forms though. korkycat Quote
Guest Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 no but it cost me 74.00 for my doctor to sign my form. I telephoned ofsted and she said they don't know why. but it will take 40 mins for my medical.Oh well if I don't pass I will be out of a job. Dorinda Quote
lynned55 Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 If they dont know why you need a medical then WHY are they asking you to have one. I woul dbe inclined to insist on a reason in writing for the need for one. I have found that the last twice I have done this with ofsted they have written saying that I didn't have to do what they were asking. (does that make sense!!) Quote
Upsy Daisy Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 I'm with lynned55 on this. I think they should give you a reason for this request because it feels to me like an invasion of your privacy. I would ask to speak to the person who made the decision - surely they'll know the reason (?) Quote
sunnyday Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 If they dont know why you need a medical then WHY are they asking you to have one. I woul dbe inclined to insist on a reason in writing for the need for one. I have found that the last twice I have done this with ofsted they have written saying that I didn't have to do what they were asking. (does that make sense!!) Absolutely - I second this! Quote
narnia Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 I agree.......what nonsense! I've never had to have a medical for working with children.In fact, the only one i have ever needed was for working as a nursing assistant at the hospital, and they apologised for having to do it! Quote
Upsy Daisy Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 One does hope that this is not the thin end of the wedge....another hoop they are going to make us jump through. Quote
sunnyday Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 One does hope that this is not the thin end of the wedge....another hoop they are going to make us jump through. Hmmm....have to say I thought that........sincerely hope not.......do not wish to and can't afford to pay for a 'medical' and the result would surely read........ This woman is well past her sell by date!!! Quote
Upsy Daisy Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 This woman is well past her sell by date!!! I sincerely doubt that! I would struggle to pay £74 for a form signed by a doctor too! Quote
Guest Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 No medical but they did write to my doctor for "further information". I would question it as I'm surprised they haven't asked me due my multiple broken bits, and if you are in good health it seems a bit odd. Unless they randomly select individuals to check the reports are accurate. Blimey a medical for me could take all day! Quote
sunnyday Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 I have just remembered this........back in the day ....when I first started in this Early Years business!!! We had to have a chest x-ray to make sure we weren't carrying TB........ Now do you believe I'm 'past my sell by date'!!! Quote
belle06 Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 oh sunnyday so pleased you said that I was also one who had to have the TB x ray!! Quote
Cait Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 And we couldn't do it if we had a history of mental illness, including post-natal depression! Quote
Upsy Daisy Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 Well I'd have been out of a job then! NB I still don't think you're past your sell by date sunnyday Quote
thumperrabbit Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 And we couldn't do it if we had a history of mental illness, including post-natal depression! Gosh that rules out a lot of us!!! there aren't many people these days who haven't been on anti-depressants for one reason or another! Quote
Guest Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 hi, was googling for info on something completely unrelated and came acrooss this paragraph from a fee guidance document by the British Medical Assoc. Childminders31 March 2009 F Childminders The responsibility for the regulation of childminding and day care for children under eight transferred from local authorities to the Office for Standards in Education (OFSTED) from 2001. In order for people to be registered as childminders OFSTED must check on their suitability. The GP fee for the completion of the required form will be paid either by the intended childminder, the person in charge or the employer. OFSTED is not responsible for paying this fee. Effective date: 1 April 2009 Completion of childminder health form: £87.50 Note: This fee is paid by the childminder, person in charge, or employer. the document is here http://www.bma.org.uk/images/Fees6_tcm41-173923.pdf Personally think its another government 'moneymaker' - interesting there was little explanation to go with the form - imagine if we'd sent out theEYFS to parents and left it at that... i'm sure the big'o' inspector would have much to say Double standards??!! Quote
Upsy Daisy Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 £87.50 for filling in a form? I should have been a doctor!!!! That could well have put me off registering. It's a lot of money when you are earning so little. Does anyone know how many childminders have ended up paying for this? Quote
Guest Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Shocking isn't it... Particularly when you enquire to the 'o' and they don't seem to know the reasoning behind it Don't know how many have had to pay so far (can't decide how to interpret 'childminder'...I think it includes daycare settings too). Am also now wondering what they then do with the information when they've got it? With such a lack of info surrounding it, it's hard to know their 'next steps'! Do they have a set of suitability guidelines regarding what's acceptable to have 'suffered'...like many have said already depression etc is common..Maybe the Cwdc will have a ready reckoner for us alongside the qualifications check!! (must stop taking the cynical pills ) Quote
Upsy Daisy Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Am also now wondering what they then do with the information when they've got it? Good point! What will they do with it? How will they store it? How long will they keep it for? Will anyone else have access to it? Will they let it be put on laptop or cd which then gets left on e train or goes missing in the post? This is very personal information and I think anyone undergoing a medical has a right to some answers. Quote
Guest Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Will they let it be put on laptop or cd which then gets left on e train or goes missing in the post? Nice one... You've too take cynical pills... Do they have a policy for said document..do all inspectors know it inside out...how is it communicated (badly,obviously!! haha) seriously though, what you've said Upsy Daisy is only what they expect of us... Quote
Upsy Daisy Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I would email Mrs O and ask her these questions but I don't want to rattle her cage. I'd probably get an unannounced inspection as punishment. Quote
Guest Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Thank you for your replies. I telephoned ofsted. They said nothing had been put on my file saying why I need one.They also said about 50% of childcare workers have to have a medical. Mines on Wednesday of next week will let you all know how I get on Dorinda Quote
lynned55 Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Well I have obviously been talking to the 50% that dont have them then as you are the first I have heard having to actually have one- get letters form their GP yes- but no medical. I think in your shoes I would still be asking WHY before I went along for one, especialy given your employment history. Is the medical with your GP? Quote
Guest Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 Hi, I went to my medical last wednesday for Ofsted.I telephoned them today and asked if my report had come through. They recieved it Friday and said that I am suitable to run my setting. I still think that this was a complete waste of time. I had to leave work early and travel for forty minutes. Ofsted still did not know why I had to have one. Dorinda Quote
dottyp Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 I have worked in pre-schools for 12 years and have never been asked to take a medical. Just out of interest, who instructed it in the first place? dottyp Quote
Beau Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 Hi dorinda, I've merged your topics to save confusion. Quote
bugbabe Posted November 9, 2009 Posted November 9, 2009 This really does seem a waste of your time and hard earned money As DottyP, I have been in the setting for over 12 years and have never been asked for a medical Dont know where the 50% of practitioners are who have been asked to take a medical, because they obviously arent registered on here Quote
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