Guest MaryEMac Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Went into panic mode this morning when the post came. I had a letter asking if I was ready for new inspection framework and new sef coming in Sept 2009. Included in the letter was a form to order the specific tools for effective self evaluation. It includes a cdrom but comes at a cost of £183.99. Now I don't intend to take them up on their offer but I was just wondering if anyone had heard about this new sef? Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Oh yes ...haven't recieved this particular letter myself ...... but there was 'something' on one of the threads on here yesterday...take a look! Sunnyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Yes I got that too - don't panic, I think they are just waking up to the fact that it happened! September 08! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Yes I got that too - don't panic, I think they are just waking up to the fact that it happened! September 08! Sorry Cait - What? - please explain..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Isn't it just that you have to have it in place for September 2009? I think they've given this year as a kind of bedding in period for settings to get one drawn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Not sure what type of settings you are from, but I remember reading about a new SEF coming into effect from September, I am sure it was only for state maintained schools though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Sorry Cait - What? - please explain..... Well, there's this thing called a 'SEF' a 'self Evaluation Form'. It's not mandatory, but they do like you to do it apparently. If you do a forum search you'll find out all about it. It kind of 'came on line' in September 2008. The letter is from a firm called Forum Business Media Ltd. It says that "The new Self-evaluation Form (SEF) will be available in July 2009" they are offering something to help, priced at £183.99 (plus quarterly payments of £79.99 + P&P + VAT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Well, there's this thing called a 'SEF' a 'self Evaluation Form'. It's not mandatory, but they do like you to do it apparently. If you do a forum search you'll find out all about it. It kind of 'came on line' in September 2008. Ha ha very funny - not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyfs1966 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 The SEF is going to change for Early Years Foundation Stage from Sept 2009. You can read about the changes on Ofsted site, clicking link below (or copying and pasting into your browser) http://ofstednews.ofsted.gov.uk/article/490 For those of you who get Ofsted News by email, you should have this in your inbox already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 i recieved this letter today also- read it, then promptly ripped it in half and dropped into my recycling box! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inge Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 not looked at it but sounds like a firm trying to sell you their software .. think I had one as not working it was suitably filed.. any changes would come from big O Inge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 The SEF is going to change for Early Years Foundation Stage from Sept 2009. You can read about the changes on Ofsted site, clicking link below (or copying and pasting into your browser)http://ofstednews.ofsted.gov.uk/article/490 For those of you who get Ofsted News by email, you should have this in your inbox already. Thanks for that.....you are right.....I did have it already!!!.......All a bit of a 'blur' at this end of the school year!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsL Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I know that my headteacher was annoyed because the primary school SEF format is changing and apparently all SEF's that are currently online will be wiped, ready to start again. So my head has copied hers into a word document so she doesn't loose it all. I was worried that this was also the case for our Preschool SEF which I was about to put online, so I asked my EY's adviser and she said she hadn't heard anything about this and didn't think it was the case. But now I've heard you all say this I wonder if she knows what she is talking about............! So should I put it online or wait? Arhhhhhhhh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyfs1966 Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 All I can add is that we had some strange comments at pre school inspection last week..inspector said there were big changes ahead, and that we would eventually see that we were lucky to have had our inspection on this side of the summer break. Now what does that mean? She wouldn't elucidate, and have scoured ofsted site for info, and contacted LEA for advice, and no one seems to be able to shed any light on the comments made. Now changes to the SEF will affect all of us, so can't see that's what she was referring to. Also I know that our inspections are going to be outsourced by a third party (Tribal in my region), but again can't see that this would justify her impending doom...so what else have Ofsted got up their sleve for us all.....If you have any inkling, please, please share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) I think that the letter MaryEMac is referring to - sounds like the one I have - makes it sound as though SEF and Ofsted Inspection changes are completely revamped in the way that they were overhauled for EYFS - Huge, major changes! I can't find anything in the Ofsted's news where it says that my online SEF will be wiped I subscribe to Ofsted news - but I don't get anything! Just checked online and - yep, I'm registered, so why am I not getting stuff!!!!! Edited July 13, 2009 by Cait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I dont know whether this is just for school settings but my head was telling me today that he will have to rewrite the SEF in a different format as they are changing it for Septmeber - he was going on some training about it this evening - will try and find out for tomorrow. Although he did say it will mean a lot of cutting and pasting going on over the holidays I dont think he has to start from scratch again if you see what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 All I can add is that we had some strange comments at pre school inspection last week..inspector said there were big changes ahead, and that we would eventually see that we were lucky to have had our inspection on this side of the summer break. Now what does that mean? She wouldn't elucidate, and have scoured ofsted site for info, and contacted LEA for advice, and no one seems to be able to shed any light on the comments made. Now changes to the SEF will affect all of us, so can't see that's what she was referring to. Also I know that our inspections are going to be outsourced by a third party (Tribal in my region), but again can't see that this would justify her impending doom...so what else have Ofsted got up their sleve for us all.....If you have any inkling, please, please share OK....worried now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 yeah - officially worried now ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panders Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 (edited) I subscribe too Cait, and usually I receive their newsletters, but this one seems not to have been sent. Haven't submitted SEF yet, but done fair bit of work on it so far and was about to finish it off over the summer hols (o.k. I can hear you all giggling) as I said I was going to finish it off this summer. Now I think I will continue unless I receive something to the contrary. My inspection if they are true to form should be about 3rd week in September. Edited July 13, 2009 by Panders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 The thing is, Panders, now I think about it, I can't remember getting one for absolutely AGES!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Cait - I too have subscribed to Ofsted news but never get anything at all - I used to ages ago and I did make enquiries but still nothing - no email alerts etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inge Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 i too subscribe and not had one for ages either, not realised as not working in a setting, thought I may have stopped it in a forgetful moment, but I am still subscribed.. Inge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 i too subscribe and not had one for ages either, not realised as not working in a setting, thought I may have stopped it in a forgetful moment, but I am still subscribed.. Inge so not just me then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 The SEF is going to change for Early Years Foundation Stage from Sept 2009. You can read about the changes on Ofsted site, clicking link below (or copying and pasting into your browser)http://ofstednews.ofsted.gov.uk/article/490 For those of you who get Ofsted News by email, you should have this in your inbox already. I have just looked at this and it does seem to suggest that changes to the Inspection process are coming in too as well as the changes to the SEF....oh the joys of working in the early years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inge Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 I just read it too, and it really makes it sound like there have been no changes for a while after all it has not been changed since July 2008 all of a year , and it also implies it will be changed/ updated once a year in the future... think they like giving everyone more work to do - here's hoping for all of you doing these that it is only minor tweaking and not major rewrite you need to do... (The setting I left was brave, did its accreditation and said no to doing sef.. its not compulsory.. they still have a suitable evaluation but in a different way...) Inge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 The thing is, Panders, now I think about it, I can't remember getting one for absolutely AGES!!!! I've just had a look ....... I've had 'stuff' from them - Feb., April, May, July...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 really - that's more than me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louby loo Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 How is the the 'revised SEF summer club' doing? When does it officailly open for business???? xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 How is the the 'revised SEF summer club' doing? When does it officailly open for business???? xxx Well......revised/not revised I will be starting mine next week! Might have to start a new thread for a 'roll call' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 really - that's more than me! Have forwarded to your email address! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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