blondie Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 We will shortly have a child start with us who has an epi-pen, not had this for many years so any advice gratefully received - re who should train staff - parent or medical person and do we need to contact insurance company? thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panders Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I have no advice really Blondie - have been out of the game for a while now, but I would suggest that the Epi pen is checked regularly and that it is in date, there have been instances in the press where this was not the case and the pen was ineffective, or the wrong size pen for the person using it where they had had it for so long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 The last time that we had a child with an epi pen we were trained by a 'community nurse' - wonder what the chance would be of that happening now would be...... We access our First Aid training via a company called MediAid - use of epi pens is covered in tis training I would definitely notify insurance company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyday Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Goodness what a garbled post that was - sorry (can't even blame the gin, don't drink on a school night!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louby loo Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 We found a good template on google for an A4 care sheet for display. (sorry I haven't got the link as it's on the dead laptop) It had a visual reminder on how to use pen, what to do etc. Fully editable so relevant to individual children. I think it was something like "Bafis" . If I have time this evening I will try and find the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louby loo Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 https://www.bsaci.org/about/download-paediatric-allergy-action-plans Found it ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondie Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 thank you Louby loo - great help. Will try to see if can get community nurse in (very unlikely) Epi pen was briefly discussed in First aid training last year and we were able to look at one and demonstrate how we could use it but was very brief and when have child who has epi pen I would feel better about bit more training as is life threatening . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 We have children with EpiPen on a regular basis (is it an EpiPen or another variety??) You need one to stay at preschool at all times...if they have severe attacks then 2 must be kept . (There is a shortage of them at the moment) you can certainly request health to come in but if you have been trained you should be ok. Try you tube for videos. You need to out a health care plan in place and tell your insurance company (they often want to see the paperwork) make sure it is positioned in an accessible place but out of the reach of children and I would advise all staff are trained. Remember when you are out you will need to take it in a safe box We put expiry dates on our diaries and preempt renewal Message me if I can be of any more help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondie Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 On 27/09/2019 at 08:05, finleysmaid said: We have children with EpiPen on a regular basis (is it an EpiPen or another variety??) You need one to stay at preschool at all times...if they have severe attacks then 2 must be kept . (There is a shortage of them at the moment) you can certainly request health to come in but if you have been trained you should be ok. Try you tube for videos. You need to out a health care plan in place and tell your insurance company (they often want to see the paperwork) make sure it is positioned in an accessible place but out of the reach of children and I would advise all staff are trained. Remember when you are out you will need to take it in a safe box We put expiry dates on our diaries and preempt renewal Message me if I can be of any more help Thank you Finsley maid - mum will bring it in each time he attends as has two in there but at the moment is unable to get any more than that. Once she does we will have two in setting - it is in a bright orange zipped bag (mum has brought it in to show us) which we will put away safely but accessible at all times. Will check re expiry dates (yes is an epi-pen) are they long dates or quite short? We don't go off site so all ok there. Thank you for the help and advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 20:31, blondie said: are they long dates or quite short? We don't go off site so all ok there. Thank you for the help and advice. NO problem...they usually have a reasonable time on them but it always seems to 'time out' whilst they are at pre-school. The most recent advice is that you can use these after the date as long as the liquid is still clear ...but this is because there is a huge shortage of them (personally i would ring 999 and check if you needed to give an out of date one!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louby loo Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Interestingly, with our last child the allergy specialist was not happy about pens being left at the setting! They were of the mindset that the condition is so serious that the pen should always be with the child anyway- and the sooner they[child] learnt the importance of keeping it with them at all time the better! Luckily the GP doesn't agree and will prescribe one to be left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 we have had one who had a moveable kit ...but it's a terrible issue if they leave it, basically our rule is that if they don't have it they can't come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louby loo Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, finleysmaid said: we have had one who had a moveable kit ...but it's a terrible issue if they leave it, basically our rule is that if they don't have it they can't come in. Totally agree. We were lucky that the child's GP thought having an emergency back-up was worth it. We did/do try to install into the child the importance of carrying with them though. The back-up pen gives us all the reassurance needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondie Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 Thank you everyone - hopefully will never have to use one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple53 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Have you got access to a school Nurse? We have annual training for using epipens along with asthma training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finleysmaid Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, Apple53 said: Have you got access to a school Nurse? We have annual training for using epipens along with asthma training. not likely if you are a non school based setting. !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondie Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 No, based in community centre - shame as last year one of our children's mum was a nurse within a doctor surgery - girl has now moved onto school and mum has gone full time at surgery further away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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