Foreveryoung Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Hi despite all the above I am struggling......can anyone do the math for me PLEASE!! I have 2 staff that have worked only the last 17 weeks of this school year as 1-1 support. One works 10.5 hours. The other 20 hours Holiday pay entitlement anyone??? Would be very grateful! If they are casual staff you can use this calculator, hours worked per week x number of weeks, pop your total in calculator. Works out exact answer for you https://www.gov.uk/calculate-your-holiday-entitlement 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshaD Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 No I still don't understand this. When I put in the various hours etc - it always comes to weekly equivalent of 5.6 which for term time workers is too much. Like Rea and others I think I am paying too much, but prefer this than too little. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynne28 Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I have also tried the calculator at hmrc and it still comes out at yearly not termly. I must be doing something wrong. Can anyone give me the calculations on holiday for: 38 weeks of the year 12 hours per week and 38 weeks of the year 17 hours per week. Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFCCCC Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 It does depend on your own policy of paying workers - there is a legal minimum of 20 days plus stats but other than that it is up to individual employers. So the legal minimum for term time workers (who work 75% of the year) is 15 days - or three weeks. So if you are paying the legal minimum, just pay them 3 weeks (3 x 12 hours and 3 x 17 hours respectively) An easy way to do it is to pay one week per term (in April, August and December) That is how I pay some of my term time staff their holiday. As far as bank holidays go - the ones that fall in school holidays are irrelevant (that's usually all of them except May Day) and when they do fall in term time - if it's on a day the worker would usually have worked, just pay them as if they were there. If its not a working day, they are not entitled. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I have also tried the calculator at hmrc and it still comes out at yearly not termly. I must be doing something wrong. Can anyone give me the calculations on holiday for: 38 weeks of the year 12 hours per week and 38 weeks of the year 17 hours per week. Many thanks We also use PSLA for our payroll and term time (38wks) holiday pay, on that (as Lynne28 post) I make it 55 hrs per year for your 12hr worker and 77.75hrs per year for your 17hr worker. a 52 wk year becomes a 46.4wk year for a 38 wk term time worker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynne28 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Hi Thankyou for your replies, it looks like we have been paying staff to much holiday. we will look into this more however i'm sure staff won't be happy. Many thanks once again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inge Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I used the hmrc site and put in hours for the year under the irregular hours option.. so for 12 hrs a week x 38 weeks = 456 - if you put that in the calculator it gives 55hrs and 2 mins.. so this may be the way to do it.. That said we always paid the full entitlement even if it was overpaid... we earn so little for the hours worked that it was looked on as a bit of a perk to have that extra holiday paid. It did also mean if the entitlement went up and we could not afford more we were still paying enough without increasing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) Can someone please take a look at this? I'm tying myself in knots.... I've been on the HMRC site to calculate the holiday entitlement. Our staff like 12 equal monthly sums so we roll the holiday pay up and spilt it over the year. 24.5 hours per week x 38 weeks worked = 931.00 hours 112 hours 21minutes hours holiday entitlement 931 + 112 hours 21 minutes = 1043 hours 21 minutes 1043 hours 21 minutes ÷ 12 = 86 hours 93 minutes (87 hrs 33 minutes) hours pay per calendar month Need holiday.Need holiday. Need holiday........ :blink: Edited August 3, 2016 by Rea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 http://www.devon.gov.uk/pla_calculating_holiday_pay.pdf Ours is worked out by the PSLA payroll, so using this I would make it: 24.5hrs per week (A) x 38wks (B) = 931hrs per yr © 931hrs © ÷ 46.4 = 20.6 (D) 5.6wks x 20.6 (D) = 112.34hrs (E) entitlement per year ÷ 12 = 9.36 holiday hours to add per month 931hrs worked per year ÷ 12 monthly payments = 77.58hrs + 9.36 = 86.94hrs per month ( so somewhere handy Rea ;-p) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 That looks similar enough for me, thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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