finleysmaid

The stupid thing about this is that it is supposed to keep costs down for parents but in our case it will rise for most to cover those that are funded only. The government are still not paying us enough to cover our increasing costs. And if anyone quotes me the funded two year old rate again i will scream.....it still brings in less for 5 x 2 year olds than 8x 3 year olds....i don't get why anyone in the government hasn't worked that out!!!

I AGREE ! If we shift to 9 we will lose money as the school starts at 9 so they will just drop off after school (for the majority!) if we stop at 2.30 that might work but we will have to charge the after school lot much more to cover the loss. And of course no guarantee that anyone will pay that either! We've just had Three children pull out of 30 hour spaces...So lost all that money and no recompense!

Thanks for the replies.❤️ Unfortunately Cait thats the problem we have just been told we will no longer be able to do the lunch club as we did.This would be classed as an artificial break (in other words you cant have your block of 30 hour funding without a charge) We can do it that way but would have to ask for a voluntary contribution which is not really a financially viable way to operate! Erin ...Thank you for replying We start at 8.15 and children in at 8.30 . My staff already do a 9 and 3/4 hour day . I feel we would need to change the staff team to accommodate extra hours which wouldn't work. I think my plan at the moment (mainly because we've already sent out parent contracts is to stick to a similar model but offer lunch club as a voluntary contribution and then charge more for after school hours. TBH its not ideal we have to sign our provider agreement next week and have been told that if we dont we wont get any funding.

Thanks Sunnyday. Always pleased of support even if it is from someone as old as you ! 🤣❤️

Hi All sorry been busy so not been on much! Has anyone got any ideas as to how to stop us all going out of business? !!!! we are a not for profit charity in a sole use rented property currently offering 32,5 hours care and education, 38 weeks a year for the grand sum of £32.50 a week. This is claimed from a charge for lunch club of £6.50 a day in between our two sessions. We do not demand people attend it and they are welcome to take their children out for lunch ! the new government rules will expect me to 'put' this half hour session somewhere else in the day but we run after school club so cant jiggle much. Anyone have a get round/good idea/solution?????? getting rather concerned this small change in wording could remove 33k from our bottom line and put us out of work!

Did you create a download ? it should be in your download info.? (im not very IT literate so dont ask anything complicated!🤣)

Hi Kamal and welcome. I run a pre-school not a school class but classroom management strategies could include a wide variety of subjects including how you set up your environment, behaviour management of staff and pupils, ratios and staff deployment.etc etc....was there a particular focus for this question?

Yes absolutely legal and yes its a great way to boost income. However it has to be privately funded as the funding doesn't allow you to 'claim' any school funding

I think this depends on how your setting is set up and who is available to work with the children. I would check the statutory framework page 28 to be sure. No level 2 or 3 is allowed a 1 to 13 ratio.

perhaps you should ask them what the learning intention of the lesson is? emphasis on PSE appears to be where they are going?? or Knowledge of the world? I'm never sure why people make it so vague surely they want to see the best of you not try and catch you out??!!

could you not give yourself a break and say that i exceptional circumstances you are going to close a day or two early? You will not only have to empty and refill another space but also chuck and clean (skip needed!!) we moved in 2011. Although we were only moving a little way we needed to do a whole new registration . I also had to do a suitable person interview and health questionnaire. I'm reluctant to say you need to do x y and z because i can guarantee they have changed the system!! ring them and chat , they are very keen to keep good provision going for the benefit of the children. Your LEA may also offer help and obviously need to be informed too. In 2011 we weren't allowed to open until we had had an opening inspection....we operated on 2 x 2 hour sessions for about a fortnight until they could come in !! good luck. it's hard but gives you the chance to reset and improve whats not working too.

Sorry realised there is an error in my response as of course it is now 5 2 year olds not 4! however i may not be reading your question correctly... to clarify To be in ratio you must have a qualification. therefore for 17 children you need 1 x staff for the two year olds plus 3 x 3 year olds =5 ....at level 2 0r 3 1x staff for 8 3 year olds at level 2 or 3 =8 1x staff for 8 x 3 year olds at level 2 or 3 =8 so to cover 17 children you would require 3 qualified staff. at least 2 at level 2 and 1x level 3 unqualified staff CANNOT be included in ratio

now that would make a dream team !❤️

I am also on the hunt currently using agency staff for the first time ever! costing me a fortune. !

interestingly was told by a school the other day that schools dont do things like tapestry any longer! Is this something else people are finding ...and why?