Guest Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Would love some feedback to see if you pay your staff sick pay. Do you have company sick scheme? or do you pay staff a set amount if they are sick? A member of staff is going to request to the committee, that staff are paid for sick leave. At present if they are sick and they do not get paid but.... get SSP if they are entitlied after 3 days. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Quote
Inge Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 only ssp.. there is no legal obligation to do anything else.. does stop those who may be off for occasional days , and staff tend to be off when genuinely ill ( the committee did have some discretion on this and if a genuine reason they would often pay for the first 3 days as well - not that it is much.. but the thought that counted. ) Quote
Lyanne Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Will watch this with interest as we don't even get SSP yet. Quote
lynned55 Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 We try to but quite frankly could not afford to pay more then 2/3 days. The problem with SSP not everyone qualifies. Quote
finleysmaid Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 link to ssp info.... http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBen...mp;CRE=sick_pay Quote
Inge Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Will watch this with interest as we don't even get SSP yet. it is your entitlement if you qualify to get it, not optional for the setting to decide if they want to pay.. usually if you pay national Insurance you tend to qualify, but there is a calculator on the HMRC website which makes it easy to work out if someone is when they are off.. its not like it costs the setting much they can recover most of it , that is also on the calculators.. Quote
Lyanne Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 it is your entitlement if you qualify to get it, not optional for the setting to decide if they want to pay.. usually if you pay national Insurance you tend to qualify, but there is a calculator on the HMRC website which makes it easy to work out if someone is when they are off.. its not like it costs the setting much they can recover most of it , that is also on the calculators.. Thank you Inge, I think most of us should qualify then & we are going to be having an outside company do payroll so all that will be factored in. Ooh, I'll get sick pay! (Except that the only time I have is when my son is ill so that still won't count...) Quote
Guest Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) My staff get paid sick pay and consequently go sick for weeks at a time (honestly!) - why wouldn't they - they are getting paid for it! it might sound great as its full pay - no questions from the committee - but the upshot is people take advantage of it - and this impacts on the team - a sensible sick pay system is fair - just think our committee are a tad out if touch with reality. Edited January 17, 2012 by Guest Quote
redjayne Posted January 17, 2012 Posted January 17, 2012 we pay a maximum of a working weeks sick pay per annum (5 days for full time - then the part time equivalent depending on how many days they work)- any more than that has to be SSP or at management discretion i.e. operations or hospital admissions where we know they aren't just swinging the lead will be paid at full rate. Staff who don't use any of the sick pay during the year get 2 days back as extra leave days in the next year, it works pretty well for us and I have low sickness absence compared to other settings in my area. Quote
Guest Posted January 18, 2012 Posted January 18, 2012 thanks for your feedback. Will do more research and speak to ACAS to find out what we would need to put this into place if we were to offer sick pay. Quote
Guest Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 I posted this orginal post back in 2012.. just wondering if everyone is still not paying sick pay :-) Quote
missmighty Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 I don't pay my staff sick pay. Can't afford to pay them for not being in and pay someone else to cover them Quote
finleysmaid Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 it is obligatory to pay sick pay SSP https://www.gov.uk/statutory-sick-pay you dont as an employer have a choice. Quote
Inge Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 if eligible for ssp you have to pay.... but it is often recoverable from the tax man... doesn't all come out of your coffers... just a small percentage... we often found not all were eligible...but always checked... 1 Quote
MarshaD Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 There are changes due to reclaiming sick pay check out http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/consumertips/tax/10644389/Sick-pay-change-a-threat-to-small-companies.html Quote
Guest Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 thank you for the link MarshaD shame. I haven't heard about this at all... Quote
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