Guest Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Hello. Just a quick poll to see what other settings do! Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Full pay but with the proviso that we still get EY funding for short term closure. If not we cannot afford to pay. I am mean and ask them to do work stuff at home though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Not mean at all suzie, its what our staff do to. It helps them to be able to have time to catch up on paperwork that would normally be done in their own time for no pay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanne Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Couldn't vote, as our setting has never been closed from snow, but we have had staff say they feel unable to get in - they're not paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 ours is the same, get full pay as long as we still get the funding. we do ask staff to work on the childs learning journeys at home, as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimms o'clock? Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 This is what we do; If staff say they can't get in or want to go home early then they lose pay as it is their choice; if it is a Management decision not to open or close early then we have to pay them. The funding is not an issue if we deem it unsafe to open then we have to pay staff. It is not always possible for staff to do any work at home because if it is an unpredicted closure they are unlikely to have taken LJ's etc. home with them to work on. ...and by the looks of the amount coming down from the heavens just now might mean we end up losing some more money next week! I HATE THIS WEATHER, GO AWAY SNOW AND ICE!! BMG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenpercy Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 i have voted annual leave - but I give staff the option of annual leave or time off and it splits fairly evenly. Myself and supervisor take annual leave as we find it difficult to get any if not!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suebear Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Full pay if management's decision to close and funding is still received from children - staff are expected to work from home but this isn't checked. Think they do enough in their own time at other times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredbear Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Hi first time in my 19 years at the pre-school that we have had to close for a whole week, and i have to say it was awful to do so. Yes we paid our staff as it really wasn't there fault, and they work so jolly hard throughout the year.. Obviously we would not be able to sustain that for any longer period of time, and we are in the process of discussing a procedure in the future for work at home etc. I'm sure schools don't give back funding so why should any other provision in education. Unless someone on here knows different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Not really relevant to pre-schools but just to answer Bridgers point about schools - if school is closed due to a management descision we are paid. However if school is open but I can't get there (can't get out of my village for example) I have to go to my nearest school in the Authority for the day if I want to be paid, otherwise it could be unpaid or paid leave of absence depending on a Governors' decision. I know the decision to close is never taken lightly, and I'm so relieved that we have finished for the term now - luckily before the snow came here. Here's hoping for a snow-free January! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel10 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Hi I voted that we get paid if closed, but as we can all walk to work, I don't close. Staff all think they can sit at home on full pay though. Money must grow on trees. Our local schools closed for 2 days and we stayed open. No kids on the first day but about 7 on the second. I spent the first day tidying my office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredbear Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Thanks marywilliam but my question was regarding the funding of pupils in schools [and whether it is retrieved back] as opposed to the staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 As most of our children are not funded, and parents get 75% refund on days that we are closed then staff do not get paid even if they can get to work. We are charity and they say that they cannot afford to pay us. But we all have our bills to pay and although the odd day is fun much longer and it starts to affect us hard. I have a friend whose husband is a big wig in unison and he says that they cant not pay staff if staff are willing to work and turn up as its the employers choice to close not staff. Different of course if staff cant turn up. Not sure how a chairty would fund this though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenpercy Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 If you have your staff contract written to say that you can vary their hours - which would only be sensible because of non-pupil days, days when you are a polling booth , or numbers of children going down - then of course you can not pay them. I have re-written all our contracts to take this into account. Numbers were very low this September and we would have lost a fortune - instead of just a large amount of money if we had not done this. I have also ensured that the contract states 28 days including any bank holidays. As I am not a charity, anyrthin I pay staff when we are not making money somes from my take home pay which is alreasy less than my Supervisor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroljayne Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Full pay but with the proviso that we still get EY funding for short term closure.If not we cannot afford to pay. I am mean and ask them to do work stuff at home though! yep thats the same at my setting If we don't get the funding we have no income to go out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 if you go on direct gov you will see that if its your boss closes the nursery they have to pay you, they cannot make you take it as holiday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 if you go on direct gov you will see that if its your boss closes the nursery they have to pay you, they cannot make you take it as holiday That's why I always make it in on snow days! Welcome to the Forum, kylet and congratulations on making your first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) If you pay your staff when the snow prevents them from getting to work, what do you think of the idea of e-mailing staff some kind of 'training' information for them to read, reflect and comment on - I'm sure for many settings there is lots of valuable reading that staff just don't get the time to do ? Or is this a daft idea and I should just go back to bed Edited January 22, 2011 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 03:55[/b]' post='281122']If you pay your staff when the snow prevents them from getting to work, what do you think of the idea of e-mailing staff some kind of 'training' information for them to read, reflect and comment on - I'm sure for many settings there is lots of valuable reading that staff just don't get the time to do ? Or is this a daft idea and I should just go back to bed You should deffinately have gone back to bed!!! I think this is a great idea, although I have at least one member of the team who doesn't have internet access. I will be doing this in the future though for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rainyjaney Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I am not sure that staff should be working on learning journeys at home. Our's do not leave the premises until they go home with the child. Besides, if it snows, wouldn't learning journey be at setting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) I am not sure that staff should be working on learning journeys at home. Our's do not leave the premises until they go home with the child. Besides, if it snows, wouldn't learning journey be at setting? Your right, missed that one. The potential risks involved regarding data protection and safeguarding are huge! Learning Journeys aren't alowed out of setting unless with the parents, even then they are signed in and out. But research or other areas of work related to their additional roles would be a reasonable request in my opinion. p.s. I did mean you should go back to bed Sam because you were uo at 3.55am by the way!!! Edited January 22, 2011 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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