Guest Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Have been away for a while but now getting back into the swing of things, just been on the EYFS website and noticed a new icon! How long has this been there? It's information primarily for journalists or parents - so watch out don't go moaning about the paperwork involved with the EYFS, as this new icon is telling parents/journalists that it's a myth!? Will try and attach a link... http://www.standards.dfes.gov.uk/eyfs/site/index.htm hope it worked? The icon is top right on page. Is this old news? Sorry if it is. I was just looking for some format/info for my parents - it would be great if the govt. were going to print this off and mail to every parent - save me a huge job and would reduce my paperwork load!!?? (LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 It was mentioned on the BBC news this morning which is the first time I had heard about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I went on to the teachernet site to order the leaflets for my parents-it would only let me have 10! Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Hi myhenroxanne, haven't seen you for a while, have you been really busy? (or maybe I'm just not looking in the forums you've been in ) Thanks for the link,had a quick scan read and overall I think the leaflets provide a very positive view of EYFS. I especially like the repetition about 'play' about not testing and the emphasis on the individual child and that there isn't an expectation for children to reach all the 69 goals. I wasn't so keen on one sentence ( in the parent leaflet) which said "research shows that those who do well in reading and writing, and other areas, at age five go on to do well in their first year in primary school Key Stage 1." Why they had to emphasise reading and writing as seperate to 'other areas', is my main bug bare with 'education'. I also feel they didn't fully answer this myth; Myth: The EYFS removes parents’ right to choose the sort of provision they want for their children Under the EYFS parents are very involved with their child’s progress and are encouraged to share ideas about their progress with staff. We do recognise however, that there may be circumstances in which parents feel their beliefs are incompatible with the EYFS, so they will have the option of applying for an exemption for their child from parts of it. This policy will remain under review. As the EYFS is not a rigid curriculum and does not take a prescriptive approach to day to day activities there is unlikely to be a large demand for exemptions. It does not explain how settings are financially and otherwise bound to have to follow the EYFS, ie: if not followed cannot be registered, if not followed Educational grant is not paid. It says this policy will remain under review but if this is the only curriculum practiced what comparisons of 'alternative' curriculums can be made in the future? What if a parent wants a totally non-academic curriculum, solely based on PSE (for example) that choice will not be available, thus making the EYFS a compulsory curriculum for under 5's. There is reference to the consultation, how many parents and EYears professionals and other contributors to the consultation were clearly informed that the EYFS would be the ONLY choice available, for their under compulsory education aged children) when they participated in the consultation? Even if this is the best curriculum since sliced bread, (and totally ebeficial to children) does a government still have the right to enforce through legislation a totally exclusive of anything other than what they have devised, early years experience for everyones child who is currently below the age of what has previously been understood as compulsory education? (apologies for the long sentence ) Peggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Peggy your post reminded me of where I saw this Booklet for parents in the news "Two of the most contentious targets are that children should “write their own names . . . and begin to form simple sentences, sometimes using punctuation” and “use phonic knowledge to write simple regular words and make phonetically plausible attempts at more complex words”. The booklet states: “It’s not about introducing a curriculum for young children. Or making them read or write before they’re ready. Quite the reverse.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wolfie Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Wow, thanks for that link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquieL Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Really interesting reading, especially the one for the Media to counteract all those stories that have been circulating and making inflammatory headlines. Interestingly I picked out the same statements as Peggy, and these are the ones that have caused most concern amongst professionals. This also seems to be a Government response to the Open-Eye Campaign. This needs to be brought to the attention of some HT's, and I know that there is a paper mountain out there, whatever they might say. Certainly in some Primary Schools the lack of knowledge and understanding from SMT, or other teachers can lead to early years staff having to over-justify their way of working, or they have to follow the Primary model of planning and assessment. Value-added and concerns about OFSTED and SATS put pressure on everyone, and the 'the sooner they start the better they'll be' attitude can mean that the EY staff are not always supported in working as they should be, and this is to the detriment of the children. Marion picked up on the seemingly two opposing statements and the document addresses these later when discussing the ELG's saying: "Some of the goals relate to early literacy, and there has been opposition from some quarters to just two of these: use of phonic knowledge to write simple regular words and make phonetically plausible attempts at more complex words; and writing their own names and other things and begin to form simple sentences sometimes using punctuation. Ministers have asked Sir Jim Rose to look at these as part of his review of the primary curriculum, to see if they are appropriate and help kids make transition to primary school." I await the outcome of this with interest ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 yes thanks for that info very useful shame about the limit 10's not very helpful i can imagine all parents will want one em x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 i have just been a bit cheeky and gone back and ordered 10 more he he he em x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 In a way I wish that the Open Eye group (or any other objectors) had put the 'curriculum content' to one side and just concentrated on the fact that 'education' for under fives is now statutory (if not in name but practice) the reason being is that a 'descriptive, government written curriculum' (irrelevant of actual content) is all that is on offer to parents because anything other than their particular curriculum being offered, the setting will not be registered by Ofsted. (and therefore won't excist (spl?) If we take the messages given, literally, 'Learn through Play' development -quote "These milestones are laid out to give those working with children some guidance and to help them to identify if a child may be having problems (there is no obligation that children have to reach any particular standard). Quote "Parents should be kept up to date with what their children are doing" (not learning) Then come Ofsted Inspection day, as long as children are seen 'playing', and 'parents know what their children have been doing,' and of course that all the children are safe, then we should all achieve an outstanding result. If 'there is no obligation that children have to reach any particular standard' then why do providers have to 'evidence' the childrens progress against the goals? (something required from previous Inspections) So here's the question now...What is the difference between development and the 69 standards? Does this mean we can record the childrens development using our own terminology, and not assess to the ELG's? I am of course being very pedantic here, choosing quotes out of context which is exactly what the government have done with these 'media' documents, taken parts of the EYFS whole document and presented it in a way (and out of context to the whole) in which they want the EYFS to be perceived. I also think that their attitude towards parents' is quite arrogant, one due to the fact they have produced two documents, why wouldn't one suffice? and two because of their comment.................."there is unlikely to be a large demand for exemptions" To end on a positive note, off my soapbox, I really hope that the early years workforce continues to offer children what they, the real experts know, what is best for them, in a manner that they know is best for them. Peggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 i have just been a bit cheeky and gone back and ordered 10 more It wouldn't let me, Emma - how did you manage it? Maz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I had heard that the bulk are going out straight to LEAs for distribution to settings in their area. Bit late aint it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Hi, just joined as am having trouble getting my head around my profile books. Unsure to say Observation, Links to EFYS, Assesssment and then Next steps, can anyone help or have a simple format to share? Have I missed a heading! many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wolfie Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I can't see where to order them from - there's only a download option where I'm looking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I can't see where to order them from - there's only a download option where I'm looking? which download? ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 which download? ta Attached below are the two documents; Peggy by the way just like to say a warm welcome to the forum. eyfs_childsplay_640_08lef.pdf eyfs_everything_d16_7781_0808.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I can't see where to order them from - there's only a download option where I'm looking? Have a look on Teachernet here. Maz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hali Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 ive just ordered 10 copies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wolfie Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Thanks Maz, you're a star as always! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Hi, just joined as am having trouble getting my head around my profile books. Unsure to say Observation, Links to EFYS, Assesssment and then Next steps, can anyone help or have a simple format to share? Have I missed a heading! many thanks Well this is what I plan on using I have others but that is how we have always done it and I am not planning on changing too much for the EYFS! Communication_Language_and_Literacy.doc Next_Steps_Planning.doc Short_Term_Plan_Different_one.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 ive just ordered 10 copies I got Siobhan to order another ten so why not get either your son/daughter (or both) to order another ten each. Then your chair, treasurer etc until you have enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I've had a look at the two new docs todayat work and am rather dismayed that they don't seem to acknowledge the place of reception classes in the EYFS - it's all about nursery and other settings! I think there's one passing reference where Reception is mentioned. What I want is stuff I can stick under SMT noses. How irritating. Cx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Catma, that is a fair comment, it's heavily biased to settings based provision. I wonder if there's a way you can feed that info back? I just had a look at the leaflets our LEA have given us to distribute. They are LEA produced ones so I will be ordering from Teachernet too by the looks of things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 I shall be passing it on to my Regional Advisor when I see her in a couple of weeks!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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