thumperrabbit Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I'm after some good reading and perhaps audits around the whole strand of Communication & Language. A LOT of our 2 year olds have virtually no language and their Listening & Understanding is also very poor - these are children who are from affluent back grounds, all English and have all had their Health Visitor 2 year check and, according to mums, no problems were raised. Speech & Language are virtually non-existent for PVI in this area. I'm wondering for activities if we need to be looking at baby room ideas?? Welcome any advice and help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrower Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 In a rush, so I'll be quick but you could try looking at Every Child a Talker. Also I Can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inge Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 this sort of thing? http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/everychildatalker/ http://bit.ly/1A6ssDs http://www.ican.org.uk/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panders Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Singing and Messy play and above suggestions are fab! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumperrabbit Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 Singing and Messy play and above suggestions are fab! They don't sing or join in with actions they just listen and most don't like messy play either - we've got a real funny mixture of children this year - they are developmentally very young. Filling and emptying and transporting anything and everything and that's about it - with adult support they will join in with snack routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panders Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 They don't sing or join in with actions they just listen and most don't like messy play either - we've got a real funny mixture of children this year - they are developmentally very young. Filling and emptying and transporting anything and everything and that's about it - with adult support they will join in with snack routine. We keep on remarking how funny our lot are this year, they don't like getting too messy, they don't really like model making, a few paint, mostly they want to play pirates (there is a 3 year old boy who is definitely top dog here, in the nicest possible way). Some version of Frozen is played out most days, apart from that it can be a real struggle to find something different to engage them some bird watching has given some lovely moments,or to engage them as a whole group, but we persevere on. Maybe yours are learning the songs and signs - perhaps they have never done anything like it before, some parents are great at starting off the independence thing very early either, especially with food, can take ours a while to cotton on they can help themselves when they get to the table and then they have no idea about "portion control" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playgroup1 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I think its important to remember that it can be a big ask to expect children to watch and listen to us sing songs and rhymes and join in all at the same time. I often ask parents if the children sing the songs and do the actions at home, or watch children doing so when no one is looking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooh Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I'm in a FS class but have a very young child with ASD we find C and L quite hard with her but she loves singing along to Frozen soundtrack. Last week she chose the craft table and made a picture cutting and sticking and using Sellotape dispenser independently, she communicated with the other children and sang most of the time. Lots of fun activities too, fake snow, ice blocks in the water tray etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Lots of information here http://www.talkingpoint.org.uk/ and this booklet is very useful http://www.thecommunicationtrust.org.uk/media/2478/universally_speaking_-_early_years_web_version.pdf Also the Inclusion Development Programme: http://www.idponline.org.uk/eyslcn/launch.html Are they showing delays on the ECAT monitoring tool? The best intervention is through play, following their interests and modelling language and not asking lots of questions as this just puts pressure on them to respond and they walk away from us! Also, try giving them choices so they don't respond by just saying yes or no. Eg. Milk or water? Bike or car? They might find this difficult at first so don't worry if they don't answer. Also try not to anticipate everything they need, give them a reason to speak or communicate through gesture, obviously not to the point that they become frustrated. Lawrence Educational have a new book out that I saw at the Nursery World show, it looks good: http://www.lawrenceeducational.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?cPath=4&products_id=313 I think it's also about having realistic expectations of our 2 year olds and trying to see the world through their eyes. This poem from the Larkhill Nursery website is great: http://www.larkhill-nur.stockport.sch.uk/files/8513/8091/0756/What_does_it_feel_like_to_be_two.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumperrabbit Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 Looks like some good reading for me, thank you Kathryn The Larkhill Nursery poem put tears in my eyes I think what worries me (think that's the right way of putting it) is we know these children are behind in their communication skills, we have spoken to parents these children have had HV 2yr checks with nothing flagged up - BUT when Ofsted ask what are you doing about it .... what do we say, what evidence do we show to prove we are doing something?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynned55 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Thumperrabbit, we have the same. We have a few 2 year olds now (finally) coming in with their 2 year checks done. All have no problems or age appropriate marked but we are considering referring them as like you no speech or language hardly. Mind you we referred an almost 4 year old a little while ago- who we can hardly understand at times, lots of sounds he cant pronounce, Mum got a cancellation so he was seen very quickly. She's come back in after the half term with SALT telling her he is fine, 'age appropriate'. Our SALT are inundated with children, reports take months to get to anyone and there is now a 12/18 week waiting list for therapy. Assessments seem to be within six weeks. Partly i think because of the uptake of two year old funded children, therefore we are referring earlier and partly (and I really think this is a lot to blame) because of the amount of 'screen time' these children have. Not just TV, but laptops, ipads, iphones etc, etc. Not just the children using them but parents, instead of talking to their children or even looking at them when they talk, they are constantly on their phones checking facebook, twitter, sending emails, texts etc even when walking along the street, Edited February 27, 2015 by lynned55 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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