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[dottyp]

Hi all

Have been talking today about preparing 'fruit and veg' at our village hall setting and have always understood that
a Food and Hygiene Certificate is not required but would show good practise. However, a suggestion was made that we ask parents to provide addtional foods for snack such as ham, cheese, bread sticks, pitta bread etc. Does anyone know if members of staff would need a food and hygiene certificate to handle such foods?

[dottyp]

Apologies - just realised I put my last post in the wrong area can someone move it for me
as I don't know how!

dottyp

[Beau]

dottyp, on Apr 1 2009, 19:28, said:

Apologies - just realised I put my last post in the wrong area can someone move it for me
as I don't know how!

dottyp

You can't move it because you don't have the power, unlike me.

Don't worry if you put things in the wrong place - there is always someone helpful around to help out.

[Inge]

Beau, on Apr 1 2009, 19:35, said:

You can't move it because you don't have the power, unlike me.

Don't worry if you put things in the wrong place - there is always someone helpful around to help out.

and it is often Beau..

we supply all of the above mentioned and good practice is to have 1 staff trained and then cascade down to other staff, which is waht we did.. assume you are registered with environmental health already... (not that we ever saw anyone from there, just as well the hall kitchen is not really correctly equipped )

Inge

[Wolfie]

Some of those foods are certainly "higher risk" than the fruit and veg - I think it is just seen as good practice to send staff on this training, not a requirement, but I always sent all of my staff as part of their induction and had that written in my food hygiene policy.

[dottyp]

[quote name='Beau' date='Apr 1 2009, 19:35' post='187267']
You can't move it because you don't have the power, unlike me.

Hi Beau

You are indeed a 'saint and moderator' - was beginning to panic

[dottyp]

Thank you all for such quick replies - will seek out volunteers to attend a course after Easter

[samfrostie]

It is not a requirement as such but fits into a few of the welfare requirements of the EYFS so is suggested at least one person has the training. If you are going to book people on the course be quick in my area the courses become full very quickly.

samfrostie

[holly35]

dottyp, we are just about to purchase a CDROM based food hygiene training package which is able to be used by all staff and volunteers for the setting on one site licence. I read about it on here and have had it checked out by our LA food Safety team as I was wary of buying something which Ofsted said was not suitable. It turns out the Food Safety team are very happy with it and the advantages are the cost (under £50) and the fact that all adults who need to do it can complete it in their own time. We intend to ask all our regular emergency parent helpers to do the training so they can help out at snack time when they are helping out in the setting. If it's ok to say the company is called learnhq.com

[tess]

I had the local enviromental officer turn up this week to check our kitchen - you need to have the safer food better business booklet and complete the details in there.

Apparently a section on training etc - my staff are all trained as our local LA offers online courses.

Check was much stricter than last time (I'm in a community hall and only provide snacks, but he was very tough). Children Centre manager got bit tutts and moaned at because her milk for her coffee was out of date.

[dottyp]

Thanks Holly35 and tess - more very useful info. Will go onto web site for on line training as it would be ideal for
all staff to have training without having to find cover during session time.

dottyp

[bluestar]

Hi Holly
Can you tell me where you got the CD Rom from and how much it cost - Thanks

[holly35]

It is from learnhq.com and costs just under £50 for one site licence. As I say I have checked with Ofsted who don't commit themselves (hey what's new?), LA and the food safety team in our LA environmental health service. I wanted something in writing which said it was suitable as price wise it was loads cheaper than LA training.

[calicojo]

We operate from a village hall too and have just had our enironmental health inspection. As well as checking the fridge temp and that food was in date etc she wated to check our H & S policy, manual handling and risk assessments etc whch all got a bit confusing as it wasn't clear whether she was inspecting the hall (as I thought) but also Pre school practices.

At least it has got the hall committee worried and at last motivated to do something about the cleaner who doesn't actually seem to clean anything (it has emerged she doesn't even clean the toilets!); to get somone in to do a major clean and to redecorate the kitchen. Hopefully it won't mean a rent increase.

One of my staff has done Food Hygiene training and cascaded it down to the rest of us (we only prepare snacks) but maybe we should all do it.

[Inge]

environmental health check is now fro the group not just the premises, so yes they will check your policies etc as well as the state of the area you use..

dread them going into kitchen I just left.. it would fail definitely.. you cannot use the hand washing sink without turning on the water in the main sink first! It is clean only because we clean it.. and inside the cupboards which are not ours... YUK!

Inge