Qualification Query

[alexandrasaunt]

My deputy supervisor who has worked in the setting for almost 20 years does not have GCSE equivalent English or Maths. She did an NVQ Level 3 in Child Development to enable her to progress to deputy about 10 years ago. Have I understood correctly that the new EYFS (2017) means that she can no longer be counted as a level 3 employee in ratios?

Is there any way around this can anyone think? She will probably retire in the next 5-6 years and I know she would not wish to go back to school!

Any thoughts?

Thank you.

[FSFRebecca]

In the new workforce strategy it says "The requirement for staff to hold an EYE (L3) qualification and GCSEs came into force on 1st September 2014 and was not applied retrospectively. (p10, para 13)https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/early-years-workforce-strategy

 

Early Years Qualifications list you can check her qualification here

[giantalice]

Rebecca could you answer my query we have employed a qualified teacher am i correct in that she would have to have an early years qualification or training to be included ?

[FSFRebecca]

It would depend on which age range she qualified for - if it included the EY age range then it will be ok - use the qualification checker (links above) to see exactly which courses are relevant. If it does not include EY age range then further training would be required, for example, the EY teacher status. I know secondary school teachers who have completed their L3 quals when they found themselves in the same situation.

She could be included in your ratios - just not as QTS.

[GFCCCC]

Our LA refer us to this guideline as to who can be included in the numbers

 

http://www.education.gov.uk/eypqd/search/search.cfm

[Guest]

Hi

 

Am I missing something...these links are the same ..... that's good though isn't it?

[GFCCCC]

Hi

 

Am I missing something...these links are the same ..... that's good though isn't it?

 

Sorry - I only read the most recent post and then put the link in, I didn't realise it had already been posted!

[alexandrasaunt]

Thank you all.

[blondie]

so a member of staff who has a level 3 already but doesn't have grade c's in maths and english can still be counted in ratio as level 3?

[BroadOaks]

As I understood this, it is only newly qualified staff that had this requirement.. not staff who already qualified before the changes occurred. I also thought the GCSE requirement had been replaced with only requiring functional skills once again?! I am so confused right now?!

[flowlow]

Broadoaks I was going to say the same thing. I know the GCSE requirements were for only newly qualified staff and it was mostly post 2014. More recently though I had heard that they had changed again to something similar to functional skills

 

In all truth I am getting to the point where I just think make your mind up and just leave it alone!!! so confusing

[AliceinWonderland]

The new EYFS from 1st April, has dropped the GCSE requirements and gone back to functional skills. This means that for anyone who qualified before September 2014, they do not need any maths/English qualifications but if they qualify in childcare after September 2014, then they have to have some maths/English, this can be either GCSE's or functional skills.

 

My deputy supervisor who has worked in the setting for almost 20 years does not have GCSE equivalent English or Maths. She did an NVQ Level 3 in Child Development to enable her to progress to deputy about 10 years ago. Have I understood correctly that the new EYFS (2017) means that she can no longer be counted as a level 3 employee in ratios?

Is there any way around this can anyone think? She will probably retire in the next 5-6 years and I know she would not wish to go back to school!

Any thoughts?

Thank you.

 

For the above example, your deputy does not need to do anything extra, her qualifications are still valid.

 

I just wish the government would make things clear in the first place and stop trying to confuse everyone!

[lsp]

So, I assume that those people to started their qualifications after Sept 14 and have not yet completed them, will still need GCSE grade C or above???

[AliceinWonderland]

So, I assume that those people to started their qualifications after Sept 14 and have not yet completed them, will still need GCSE grade C or above???

 

They can do GCSE's or an equivalent such as functional skills, as long as they do one or the other they can be counted in ratios when they finish their childcare qualifications.