Guest Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Hi all. Just wondered if anyone else had come across this. I share care with a day nursery of a child. I have the child 2 mornings per week and they have her 2 full days. Mum wants her at my PS to make friends with the children she will go to school with next Sept. On induction day with Mum I explained that we like to share info with other settings eg next steps/development stages and would expect them to do the same with us (ie for childs welfare and development, requirement of EYFS etc). Parent refused to consent for me to do this. I explained that if I had concerns I would of course be speaking to her first before approaching any other professionals eg HV, Area SENCO, PVI teacher and that working together with other settings would be beneficial for her child and again she refused me permission stating that she had complete trust in the other nursery to handle all this and not for me to do any of this. (How I would know would be anoither issue??If she has not given them permission to share?) Apparently the other nursery have no concerns and think the child is "very talented" (which on the two visits I have seen this child I would disagree...at 3.5 yrs old had a tantrum after she had to wait her turn...but of course that was only my first impression). I am just hoping that there will be no concerns. During our induction I go through a variety of our policies and so was sure to say that should I have any safeguarding concerns then I would not need her permission to refer to an other agency if I thought her child was at risk. She seemed to understand this. So, have placed a note in her personnel file to state that these are her wishes which we will follow. I just find it a bit strange. I am also taking it that the other setting will not be able to send any transition info through either. I do normally have to request from other settings and ask if they have systems for sharing info but wont be able to for this child. Anyone else had this? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsp Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 As the child attends 2 full days at the other setting will they be claiming all the funding? If not you will to have contact to arrange this? We have several children with us under the same set-up but parents give us permission to share information. We use a diary which is supposed to move between everyone. It doesn't always work. It's quite hard to assess and plan for children who you only see for part time sessions. We always ask what the other setting has for next steps and try to follow. Ultimately it's parents right to refuse but it makes you wonder why, have you asked the question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Perhaps she doesn't understand what you are aiming to achieve. She may be concerned that there's going to be discussions about her child behind her back, and she's not comfortable with that, and I can understand her worries. Is she a first time parent? It's easy to assume, because we just do things all the time, that parents understand what goes on 'behind the scenes'. If her child has only joined you at 3.5yrs, she may not have come up against the two year check sharing with health visitors. Perhaps the other setting isn't sharing much with her, so she may not know the regular type of information that gets shared around as a matter of good practice. She may not be being told what her child's next steps are, or what is bring done to help her child progress. I would make a point of telling her as much as I could, sharing lots and lots with her, so she can then make the choice about what she wants to share with the other setting. Make a notebook for sharing photographs ( if you don't have Tapestry) and make her child's information interesting. If she is happy with what you are doing, she will share that, and you may get information flowing through her, from the other setting. Be patient and give plenty of time to make a trusting relationship 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouseketeer Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I hope you can change the parents mind, but following another discussion with her and if you don't get a change of heart from her I would ask her to sign something to the affect that she has requested that you don't share information with the other setting, we have had 1 parent in the past ask us not to forward transition info to school, no reason other than the parent wanted school to find out about their child for themselves and not from someone else's judgement, you may also find this later. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondie Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) we had a parent a few years ago who would not let us do observations etc on her child -even after a discussion about why and how this was done she said it was her decision which we agreed -we asked her to write a note stating this and signing it which she did - this was then put in the childs file and forwarded onto the school when she moved on. Edited July 27, 2015 by blondie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanne Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 we had a parent a few years ago who would not let us do observations etc on her child -even after a discussion about why and how this was done she said it was her decision which we agreed -we asked her to write a note stating this and signing it which she did - this was then put in the childs file and forwarded onto the school when she moved on. I've got a child starting in Sept who filled in the application form with a health visitor & language line for translation. They've said 'yes' for most of the permissions, but 'no' to some including no videos which is a shame as they've got internet access & signed up to Tapestry, no photos in other children's Learning Journeys, and no sharing our records including LJs with any external professionals. I'm going to need a translator to talk to them and find out more about this. And, can't ask the health visitor if she knows why they don't want us sharing info as that would be sharing info... I think I'll be documenting our discussions well. Marley, has mum given you any concrete info from the other setting, such as a copy of the child's Learning Journey? As she has so much faith in them, she will surely want you to utilise their next steps etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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