flowlow Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Someone asked me today if I could crystallize what was wrong with the EYFS and the job of running/being a practitioner in a pre-school? I think they were trying to get me to look at what I want to change (or what I would like to change) given the option. It did get me thinking! wondered what others would say so thought I'd ask so what do you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panders Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Paperwork and the constant reviews and changes to it. EYFS itself, well we can work with it but it's a bit repetitious BUT. that doesn't mean I want to change it anytime soon!! Just let us get on with it and work with it so that we become comfortable with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louby loo Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I think it's not so much the paperwork per-say ..... It's more the fact this 'paperwork' takes no official format. Planning- is mine enough/ to much ? Adult lead - is mine enough/to much? Learning journeys - enough/to much? We get 2 yr checks from a setting a short walk from us and they are totally different from ours. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredbear Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Oh Louby loo so true. I would look at all the positives of the EYFS. Do away with all the constant changes, this tends to unsettle us all. Have a centralised system so everybody receive updates and not have to rely on our forum buddies to inform us and keep us in the know. And finally work towards having a pay system that reflects the wonderful jobs everyone is doing in Early Years. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I totally agree with the above comments. Stop all the changes, we are seeing so many talented and experienced practitioners walk away from the job due to this. I really like the EYFS and am more than happy to continue to use it for many years to come. I think it works well, you can be creative within it and it has realistic expectations and goals. I have to agree with louby loo, I personally spend way to much time analysing my planning sheets and worrying is it enough/not enough. I think it is up to you as an individual how much paperwork you do. I have played around with mine and have got it down to the essentials and am happy that we have a good system. I do think that the SEF seems to put an unrealistic pressure on everybody and half the time it seems that the big O do not look at it anyway. I also think that it may not matter how detailed or good the SEF is an inspector is going to judge what they see on the day and not might have been previously read. Just out of interest Johanna1 who asked you this question?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowlow Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Just out of interest Johanna1 who asked you this question?? Actually it was a member of my family in the middle of a conversation about some ideas I had. I thought similar to above comments actually. I said I liked the EYFS as it stands, I think that the rest of the curriculum could learn something from a play based approach and that being flexible was both good and bad. I don't like the level of paperwork, and I fear the top down pressure that I think may be headed our way (school readiness stuff and that underlying hierarchy of subjects which we all know where it is heading). I would like to be trusted more to 'get on with things' rather than Ofsted breathing down our necks and they are not always right or effective. Really interested to hear other thoughts though so thank you And I am right there with the constant analysing of whether planning, learning journeys, adult led are enough too much...! I think we all must do it Edited September 4, 2014 by Johanna1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manor Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The so called policy makers down there in London. They have no experience/idea about childcare, yet make up all the rules and regulation etc for us to work too. "How can somebody one minute be looking after Trasnsport say, then the next childcare?" " Why cant they get someone in with a childcare background, who knows what we all do and let us get on with it?". The new Minister will have to spend months visiting setting so he can have an understanding of what we do DER! As someone once said on a course i went on- Policy makers will come and go, but how children learn remains the same, so carry on doing the job your way-you know best, you've had the training- you got the qualification! I rest my case, rant over soz. Oh ps as above paperwork, next steps (why cant we let childen be children, in the here and now) Ofsted-more hoops to jump through. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 What's wrong with the EYFS is that the people at the top making the decisions on what we do have absolutely NO experience in early years. Piss up and brewery people, piss up and brewery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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