Madmum Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 hi Alistair Bryce Clegg has shared this: http://abcdoes.typepad.com/abc-does-a-blog/2014/03/what-ofsted-are-looking-for-in-eyfs.html At the end is the link to comment on the Consultation on separate judgements for EYFS ( and sixth forms) in school inspections. I am slightly cross that they stopped separate judgements at the end of 2012(?) and now think it's a good idea again. It should never have been stopped in my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 It would still be a single section 5 inspection though. Same expectations as for any other part of the schools' EYFS - KS4 inspection framework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froglet Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I feel torn. Our last but one Ofsted when there was a separate judgement as the only EY person in school I felt immensely exposed. I also felt that with my mixed YR/Y1 class and in that particular inspection I couldn't have won - I could either be good at reception or good at Y1. In fact the inspector said categorically that he didn't think the mix worked. No one else in school apart from the head really 'got' that there was a separate EY judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamgirl Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'm not really in favour of it. Why just one key stage to have so much attention and pressure? What about the other two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 In other words, inspectors should focus on evaluating whether children are being adequately prepared for the start of their statutory schooling. Yet more hints at 'school readiness! and then this, again from Wilshaw's letter staff have sufficient expertise to teach children basic skills in the three prime areas of learning as well as in literacy and mathematicsSo what happens to creativity and understanding the world - again sidelined for a other more ' valuable' areas of learning :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 The Wilshaw letter refers to registered provision inspections though The proposed separate inspection outcome for EYFS in schools is a different framework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) I'm not really in favour of it. Why just one key stage to have so much attention and pressure? What about the other two? I think this is my problem with it - in a one form entry no nursery school it would be a judgement on one teacher alone. If the EYFS in a school inspection is judged under the same framework then it should be one judgement for the institution the child will spend their EYFS/Primary school years in. It's managed by the same SLT, it's one institution.Otherwise why not separate KS1,2,3 and 4 judgements as well? Cx Edited March 23, 2014 by catma 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froglet Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I think this is my problem with it - in a one form entry no nursery school it would be a judgement on one teacher alone. If the EYFS in a school inspection is judged under the same framework then it should be one judgement for the institution the child will spend their EYFS/Primary school years in. It's managed by the same SLT, it's one institution.Otherwise why not separate KS1,2,3 and 4 judgements as well? Cx That's exactly it for me. I know that in a small school a supposedly anonymous report isn't really - if there's a comment like "children in year 3 do not receive sufficient feedback on how to improve their writing" then everyone knows who it is. However, usually comments are made more general. If EYFS has a separate judgement then it's a judgement on me on my own. Fine if it's outstanding, not so much if it isn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green hippo Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I agree with Catma and Froglet. My other problem with it is that things can be highlighted as needing to improve etc in the Early Years and a grade given. However, for the 'whole school judgements' e.g. of behaviour, PSE etc they take into account the whole school not just KS1 and KS2 but the Early Years are not mentioned as contributing to these judgements. Green Hippo x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mundia Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Personally I preferred it when there was a separate judgement, as I found it made Heads ensure that early years was understood more, and even valued it more because it has its own judgement. My worry is that now that schools can take 2 year olds without any separate reg. therefore no separate inspection, how do we ensure they are genuinely 'included' in an inspection grading without a separate one? If, and yes it may be a big 'if', it means that inspectors of schools have to have some kind of understanding of provision for two year olds, then that's a plus. I have been inspected many times by someone who hasn't the faintest idea about early years, so I would be interested to learn how inspectors are going to be trained etc to take into account the needs of two year olds. One grading across the whole school seems to lean bias towards KS2 and this is often the case when you read through reports, much more is actually written about KS1 and 2 than about the EYFS regardless of the size of them. Small schools can be an issue, yes, but then we have schools with just two teachers, one for EYFS/KS1 and one for KS2. their reports are 'very personal' But as with all these consultations, if you have a view, whatever it is, then respond to the consultation. There have been so many over the past few years and if the sector doesn't respond, then we shouldn't be surprised by things that come into being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froglet Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Mundia, this is my problem - I agree with you too! I'm very lucky with my Head at the moment. He's very EY friendly, went on lots of training when he first got the job and remained so even when there stopped being a separate judgement. In fact this year when I said in my performance management that it was really lonely being the only EY person in school he instigated regular EY meetings with me and him. However, I do know that not all heads are like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froglet Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Update on this - not sure if I've got the link right - it should be a letter from Michael Wilshaw. See the first main paragraph. http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/other-forms-and-guides/l/Letter%20to%20schools%20from%20HMCI%20-%20July%202014.pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 The institutional amnesia is laughable - they only took it out a couple off frameworks ago! Now they act as if it never happened. Cx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froglet Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The institutional amnesia is laughable - they only took it out a couple off frameworks ago! Now they act as if it never happened. Cx I often think that laughing is probably the only way to cope! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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