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#1 Harbypreschool

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Posted 10 July 2017 - 04:52 PM

Hi,

 

We are a small committee-run pre-school in a village with 2 staff members (myself - QTS and my deputy - L3). We take children from 2yrs+.  Ratio-wise, we use me for the 3/4yr olds (13chn) and my deputy for the 2yr olds (4chn).

 

My Chairperson seems to recall reading somewhere that a child can be counted in a 3-4yr ratio group in the term that they are turning 3. So the July birthday children would count as 3 yr olds from May half term (working on a 6 term year)....I have done extensive reading to try and find this referenced somewhere and have had no joy...Is it a 'thing' or has she just gone mad after reading and reviewing the thousands of policies that I've just updated?

 

Any pointing in the right direction/links would be gratefully received.

 

Many thanks,

 

Rachel



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Posted 10 July 2017 - 05:05 PM

Can't say I've ever heard this, children stay in the 2 year ratio until the day they turn 3 as far as I'm aware.

Can put a 3yr old down to a 2yr ratio if it suits though.


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Posted 10 July 2017 - 05:26 PM

Can't say I've ever heard this, children stay in the 2 year ratio until the day they turn 3 as far as I'm aware.

Can put a 3yr old down to a 2yr ratio if it suits though.

 

Yes, I thought that this would be the case!

 

Thanks :rolleyes:



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Posted 11 July 2017 - 08:36 AM

I'm sure children are 2 until they turn 3!


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Posted 11 July 2017 - 02:37 PM

I'm sure children are 2 until they turn 3!

Yes, I was sure that this was the case too! I'll let my Chair know that it must be the madness setting in... ;-)


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Posted 11 July 2017 - 04:45 PM

Oh goodness, I couldn't imagine looking after 13 3 year olds even with a deputy! speechless-smiley-040.gif


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Posted 11 July 2017 - 05:33 PM

Oh goodness, I couldn't imagine looking after 13 3 year olds even with a deputy! speechless-smiley-040.gif

but if you put those together that's only 17 children between 2 if they were all 3 you could have 16 anyway!!!

 

sorry harbypreschool  2 year olds are 2 until they turn 3!!


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Posted 11 July 2017 - 09:20 PM

This was the case for schools, in the past that two year olds in the term of their 3rd birthday, known as rising threes, were treated as if they were 3, and were also exempt from registering 2 year provision at that time. This led to some confusion over registration and ratio at a time when Schools were just dipping their toes into the world of two year olds.
FAst forward though, and due to issues over clarity, and the expansion of 2 year provision in schools and the fact they no longer have to have separate registration, this was removed so I don't believe there is now any documentation which makes reference to rising threes in schools.
Someone has probably recalled 'something' and thinks it still applies although it was only ever used in schools because of their registration at that time.
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Posted 12 July 2017 - 12:02 PM

but if you put those together that's only 17 children between 2 if they were all 3 you could have 16 anyway!!!

 

sorry harbypreschool  2 year olds are 2 until they turn 3!!

Ha Ha yes, you are right.....did I give the impression I'd had a bit of a day! ;)


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Posted 12 July 2017 - 05:04 PM

Oh goodness, I couldn't imagine looking after 13 3 year olds even with a deputy! speechless-smiley-040.gif

I had 39 nursery children with 3 adults - me and two level 3s. I thought I was lucky.

This was before I knew about the higher ratios enjoyed by ther providers!!!

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:17 AM

Thanks to all that replied! ::1a






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