anju Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Intetesting to see EYPS specifically mentioned... http://www.education.gov.uk/inthenews/inthenews/a00210425/nubrownpn
Guest Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Thanks for sharing the link Anju, will read with interest
Guest Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 I wonder how much trining we will need to do though to make the EYPS a QTS qualification, as she talks about EYPS having a chance to upgrade to qualified teacher status, I have just done the degree, BA and EYPS......oh no not more study!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here we go again!!!!
meridian Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 mmmm.....does she mention the difference in the salaries between EYPS and QTS! 1
eyfs1966 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 My heart sank when reading the bit about moving EYP's to QTS....I feel like i have been lead up the garden path.....again!! She seems to derride current level 3 full and relevant qualifications as not fit for purpose, and yet suggests that they remain full and relevant under a "granfathered in "approach, and yet us poor sods who seemingly wasted our time doing EYPS are not offered the same favour. I am absolutely livid. 1
hali Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 honestly dont know how i feel about this - need to re read and digest - certainly dont want to do my science gcse....... :blink:
Sox Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 honestly dont know how i feel about this - need to re read and digest - certainly dont want to do my science gcse....... :blink: I'm still tramatised doing gcse maths!! Oh the though of gcse science in sept!!!!!!!! 1
Guest Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 I do like the parents guide though, nice and clear and seems sensibly written, no need for me do my own now
ForestFlo Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 I have QTS already as a KS2 teacher - Im due to start my EYPS in September. So I wonder if this means Ill have to jump through yet another hoop and end up with a second QTS award - is this possible even - surely once you have QTS then thats it -errggghhhh! Head spinning once again!
anju Posted June 20, 2012 Author Posted June 20, 2012 Kirsty, like you I have a KS2 QTS and did my EYPS back in 2007 - I was thinking the same thing: will I have I do another Early Years QTS??
Guest Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 (edited) I think only those that want to teach in a school will upgrade from EYPS to the new Early Years Teacher qualification. There will be no additional salary or incentive for pre-school leaders to do it, as level 3 is all that is required under the new framework. Disappointed that the goal post has changed from having a graduate leader in every full day care provision now, having studied very hard for EYPS. :angry: Edited June 20, 2012 by Guest
anju Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 I do think it's a good idea to have maths & English level 2 - I wonder though if there will be funded courses so that existing staff can get up to this level? If it's important for new entrants, surely it's important for those already working with children.
HappyMaz Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 We were told at college yesterday that the Government has reinstated the funding to allow our childcare practitioners to gain their maths and english alongside their degree. This used to be free, but funding was withdrawn which obviously has impacted on their ability to go on to EYPS/QTS. There was some query as to whether this was available to all practitioners, or just up to 24 years of age, so I'll be watching this with interest!
anju Posted June 22, 2012 Author Posted June 22, 2012 Thanks for that, Maz - there's no funding here but maybe that will change soon...
catma Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) As I read it she seemed to be addressing the change over issue re qualifications to say that full and relevant would be according to the regulations in place at the time of completing your qualifications vs what is required now, until the new regs filter through? E.g she talks about people who did the cert ed being awarded QTS after it was phased out. Re QTS it is awarded when a set of standards are achieved after a years induction which is a pass or fail situation, and if you fail you are not awarded QTS so can't teach in maintained schools after that. If you have QTS you have it - you would be a teacher regardless of other qualifications you take as far as I am aware. You can't be given it twice! It's all very well being a specialist in an age range, but teachers pay and conditions require you to teach any age group at the direction of the HT, so even as a trained 3 - 7 years teacher I have taught across the primary age range. Cx Edited June 23, 2012 by catma 1
Buttercup Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 just coming to end of foundation degree. what do reading this whats best to do next eyps or teacher training. I am to old for all this study. buttercup 1
Helen Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 Prof Cathy Nutbrown's presentation at the recent conference is here :1b 1
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