kb124 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Has anyone found any sites / links/ help for filling in the SEF? I know there is the Ofsted guidance but was wondering if there is any more practical support, eg's etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Hi kb124, sorry I can't help...just wanted to say WELCOME to the forum Yas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I know, I was at a SEF training and the trainer said that there was a setting somewhere who'd piloted a sef with ofsted and it was brilliant, and they'd been inundated with requests to see it and it was great ........... But - they didn't have one to show us, and didn't tell us where the setting was - par for the course eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 A warm welcome frm me too, and thanks for your first post. I put preschool sef examples into google which came up with this set of links, don't know if these may help. HERE Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inge Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Sorry cannot really help our LEA have done this and it is not yet released to everyone...but I have seen it and it looks very helpful, by putting in the ideas and things you need to cover in relevant boxes.. Cannot add much more becuse of copyright issues.. Perhaps you could ask your LEA if they are thinking about helping more in this way. Inge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Just printing off the N. Somerset guidance from the link Peggy posted. Looks good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wolfie Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Welcome to the forum kb124! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meridian Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Hi and welcome from me 2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inge Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Just printing off the N. Somerset guidance from the link Peggy posted. Looks good! A brief look at the link.. (providing I used the same one) that is the one for schools rather than the one we complete.. it is different.... they have done one for EYFS but as said not yet really released... Inge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Has anyone found any sites / links/ help for filling in the SEF? I know there is the Ofsted guidance but was wondering if there is any more practical support, eg's etc Welcome to the Forum, kb124! Perhaps now you've asked this question, those people on here who have done their SEFs will rush on with advice and words of wisdom! Maz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Our LEA are offering drop in session to discuss the SEF - def a good idea to contact your local Early Years team to see if they can provide some support xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 A brief look at the link.. (providing I used the same one) that is the one for schools rather than the one we complete.. it is different.... they have done one for EYFS but as said not yet really released... Inge You're right Inge the somerset guidance one is for schools, links further down the list appear to be for preschools / childminder settings. Peggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizzy Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Ive just tried to complete ours. The things i found help me most were my policies folder, my operational plan and the EYFS cards, oh and plenty of cups of coffee. . I didnt find it a worthwile exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 We were advised to look at our last inspection report as it used the headings as in some parts of the sef-keeping children safe, healthy etc. We then added on any parts we felt the inspector hadn't included. We have by no means finished ours but have made a good start on it. Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiles Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Essex had organised an briefy next month to help people with their SEF but places limited - waiting too hear if I have got a place. I went too one a whole back on 'Are you ready for inspection' and found it really useful , the same people are doing it so hopefully will be the same. smiles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 We were advised to look at our last inspection report as it used the headings as in some parts of the sef-keeping children safe, healthy etc. We then added on any parts we felt the inspector hadn't included. We have by no means finished ours but have made a good start on it.Linda That's a good starting place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb124 Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 I wonder how long it will be before a book is produced- 'how to complete your SEF' - there is a lot of money to be made there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Let us know when you've written it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 My Head of Early Years has just completed ours and I did help her in a small way particularly with the dreaded section3. Our final document is 30 pages long and as you can imagine it took hours and hours of work. We found the Ofsted guidance form very helpful and used their questions as sub-headings for our answers, similar to how you would answer an essay question. We are expecting a visit from our inspectors before Xmas so I'll write again to tell you if they liked it or not! P.S I definitely think that someone could start up their own business writing SEF'S! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I have just attended a local council run training session on the SEF. It was very interesting! Can you ask your development officer if they provide any training? I didn't realise until the training that the SEF is optional!!! although you must have something simular in place if you chose not to do it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I have just attended a local council run training session on the SEF. It was very interesting! Can you ask your development officer if they provide any training? I didn't realise until the training that the SEF is optional!!! although you must have something simular in place if you chose not to do it... I just had a call from my advisory teacher who visits me each term - when I asked what we'd be talking about this term she said she had some bits and pieces for me, but had I heard about this SEF thing? So I'm waiting to see what she is going to bring me - probably just a hard copy of the thing, but she may have some exciting piece of advice or guidance (or a copy of kb124's book! ). I'll keep you posted! Maz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanne Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I have just attended a local council run training session on the SEF. It was very interesting! Can you ask your development officer if they provide any training? I didn't realise until the training that the SEF is optional!!! although you must have something simular in place if you chose not to do it... Our advisory teacher said if we've done it online, it will make the inspection a lot easier for US (I suppose OFSTED too, but that's not a major concern of ours...) because the inspector will have read it before they come, know what to expect of us, breifly look at what we say we do well to check we do do it, then look at the areas we want to improve - or I suppose, any areas where we've said 'We do this and it's really great', but the inspector doesn't agree. I can understand this, but have been frustrated in the past that they haven't read the old report before coming in, as is quite apparent from some of the things they ask. I think it was a waste of our time to have to tell the inspectors 'Oh, this is what you wanted us to work on, this we can't do, look it says it here on the last report this is our situation'. I do appreciate they are busy & have lots of inspections to make but it seems to me that would have made it easier, so I hope thye're better from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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