meridian Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Hi everyone! I've got a query regarding including a student who is on a long term placement in the setting all the time aged 17 being counted into the ratios. Under the EYFS it states we can include her in the ratio (she is paid not a volunteer), However, the Ofsted requirements state that only a person aged 18 or over can be included in the ratios. Would welcome clarification on this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Hi, well cant wait to see the replies you get. Its an interesting one is this. We have a student who is doing level 3 and its her first year and she was counted in within the staffing ratio when we had a member of staff off last week. I thought though i had read it that as from sept all staff had to be qualified level 3. Yet when a child needed changing after wetting themself i was told she was not allowed to do this as she wasnt qualified! INTERESTING 0258 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inge Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 The EYFS is (or is it are, neither read right) the Ofsted requirements.. or have I missed something? we use the 17 rule as it is in there , but tend not to have students long enough. And where does it say all staff have to be qualified to level 3 from September.. mine does not say that only that managers and supervisors have to be and 50% of other staff to minimum of level 2 .. (May Edition) Am i yet again missing something? Easiest clarification.. ring Ofsted! and if lucky you will not get the usual non committal reply to look at EYFS. Inge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Hi, well cant wait to see the replies you get. Its an interesting one is this. We have a student who is doing level 3 and its her first year and she was counted in within the staffing ratio when we had a member of staff off last week. I thought though i had read it that as from sept all staff had to be qualified level 3. Yet when a child needed changing after wetting themself i was told she was not allowed to do this as she wasnt qualified! INTERESTING 0258 Hi Dont know about the who is right bit afraid...i had read the EYFS and saw that bit about students. As for all staff being level 3 I think that is incorrect. I was under the impression that the supervisor had to be level 3 and that half of the remaining staff had to be qualified (EYFS framework). I also thought this about all staff being qualified was an aim they were trying to go for in the next few years. Could be wrong in which case I should be out of job (no qualifications in childcare ). As for not being qualified to change a child who told you this? I would think so long as you are CRB checked then it would be ok as otherwise there would only be two staff in our place that could do it!! Surely it doesnt need qualifications for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Sorry! Mine and Inges posts crossed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyMaz Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 I seriously hope the EYFS documentation is right or I will need to close down until the new year! Is this Ofsted requirement in writing somewhere so I can check for myself? Maz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meridian Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 Maz - it was on some 'stuff' we received from Ofsted, not sure of the exact wording cos its at work - will look tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louby loo Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 not sure without looking it up but is the level 3 bit for maintaned nurseries with teachers in, were the ratios are slightly different anyway? xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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