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#1 Nicola Gray

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 01:55 AM

Have just read an article in March/April Nursery Management Today that Stoke on Trent EArly Years have issued a letter to their childcare providers and I quote from the article:

"I am writing to inform you that a number of local authorities have introduced additional criteria to the three and four year education grant. The criteria states that any childcare provider in receipt of the grant now has to have achieved an Investors in Children endorsed quality award to access the funding"!!!!!!!!!

A DFES spokesman said that local authorities have the flexibility to set additional reasonable conditions for receipt of early education funding by providers. Whilst we have not specifically requested authorities to use criteria based on quality of provision, it is something we would support

Rosemary Murphy of the NDNA says "The Code of Pratice on free places allows local authorities to impose conditions on providers to go in their directory. Using this to drive up quality is a move that NDNA welcomes. Indeed we have been advising members for some time to expect local authorities to adopt this policy" She does however go on to say that there should be a reasonable time frame and support towards the cost of a quality assurance scheme.

When Stoke were asked by NMT why it had decided to introduce this when 99% of providers have met Ofsted requirements the local authority said they were unable to respond at the moment. I wonder why!!

Well, I think the saying is light the blue touch paper and stand well back - what does everyone think - do you think that they (Stoke on Trent) will continue with this and will other authorities then follow?

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#2 Nicola Gray

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:06 AM

Dear Steve
Having a quiet and late bed time read (using my new laptop networked to my computer downstairs - brill I can surf the net from my pit - will I ever get to sleep now) and pulled up this very interesting article when I noticed the clock on the forum as reading an hour ahead - I am so diffy - have the clocks gone forward - am now going to have to listen to the radio to check what the real time is - otherwise I am going to be late for work.
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Posted 21 March 2005 - 09:15 AM

Hi Nichola, I believe teh clocks go foread next weekend. I know you can change the clock times but you'll have to wait for someone far clevere than me to tell you how.
Your work is going to fill a large part of your life. And the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work. And the only way to do great work is to love what you do. Steve Jobs

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 01:45 PM

Hi Nikki
To answer your second question first-go into My Controls at the top of this page, right down at the bottom on the left hand side is Board Settings. Click on there and it brings you to the page with the time settings, adjust accordingly!!
As to your first point, I think many LEAs will follow suit and insist on QA schemes being part of the criteria for funding. I'm sure that there are authorities already out there that have done the same. That is one of the reasons I decided to go for QA status and am doing Stockport local authorities own scheme.
Whether this is right or not is a different matter. Many will argue that a good OFSTED should be sufficient but I have a feeling that won't be the case for too much longer.
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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:21 PM

quite agree with Linda
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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:32 PM

You know the saying about being worried when you see the light at the end of the tunnel because it could just be a train? That's how I feel when I read articles like this one! We've just had a very good Ofsted, and were beginning to contemplate some kind of QA system.

I have that wierd personality: quite happy to devote work and effort to a project we're all committed to, but get a bit resentful when things are imposed on me for no apparent reason.

I have no doubt that this will become standard practice - but I feel sure that our local Early Years team will give time and space to get the work done before whipping away our funding.

Sometimes trying to be optimistic and looking on the bright side of life is very difficult when you work in early years!

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 02:36 PM

Here in West Sussex they have said the same Nichola, that's why I have started the West Sussex QA.
Originally, you had to be OFSTED inspected to receive the funding but now they have changed the criteria.

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 09:24 PM

I wonder,when Ofsted said they would not take account of QA schemes within their inspections, if they were aware that LEA's were going to add this to their funding criteria. :(

I have just started a QA scheme, my motivation for this was to really develop the staff team by all focusing on what we do well and to recognise areas for development together, thus all working toward the same goals.

We shall be reviewing everything that we do (and think), and as our very nature is to be self critical, this will no doubt be a very critical analysis of ourselves. The experience will enable us to have systems that can truly "measure" our quality because the developments will be from our starting point, not from external agencies such as Ofsted. ( of which many settings are of a higher quality than their required standards)

On a positive note Mazlittle, maybe when everyone has achieved a QA scheme Ofsted will become redundant :o :lol: as far as inspections are concerned, then they will have more time to look for all that lost paperwork :(

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Posted 21 March 2005 - 10:32 PM

Now, Peggy I think you and I both know that when everyone is QA'd to within an inch of their life, there will be some other initiative to get to grips with. Anything to avoid having to look for that paperwork!

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Posted 22 March 2005 - 02:36 PM

Well, I suppose if they did look for it and find it they would then have to decide what to do with it, best leave it where it is for all our sakes. :lol:

I just love new initiatives, don't you :D , but will I still be around at the end of the current TEN YEAR strategy :o
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Posted 25 March 2005 - 06:23 PM

Did you watch the BBC docu-drama about the supervolcano, and what would happen to the world if Yellowstone erupted?

Imagine what would happen to the world if Ofsted found all their missing paperwork, decided what to do with it all and TOOK ACTION!

There would undoubtedly be some kind of seismic shift - life as we know it would never be the same again.

As for the jolly old Ten Year Strategy - does anyone actually know what it all means? I'm sure you'll still be here, Peggy, dispensing your usual wit and wisdom.

Old pre-school practitioners never die, they just....

Any suggestions?

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Posted 25 March 2005 - 06:28 PM

I do recall a lady who worked in a local village preschool until she was 85 years old.........only 50 yrs to go for me then :lol:

never die, no not me. peggy pan ( or is that peter pan :o )

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Posted 25 March 2005 - 06:29 PM

ooops maths never a strong point...only 40 yrs to go..... :o

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Posted 26 March 2005 - 09:49 AM

Mazlittle old practioners just get more enthuisiastic and experienced. I also know that children will learn if they are given lots of new experiences and their carers are enthusiastic. (even if the planning is not up to scratch some weeks) I have helped my children through school, uni, buying their first cars,houses, caring and giving advice (when asked) for grandchildren. Now my life is stress free and during the hours I am at pre-school I can give 100 o/o, but when I am not at pre-school I know how important it is to switch off and do other things.

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Posted 26 March 2005 - 11:07 AM

Don't you ever wish that the powers that be would just leave us all alone instead of bombarding us with strategies, initiatives and more and more paperwork to comply with the latest idea!! Or am I just having an off day today??

I was wandering on the net yesterday and found this and it certainly made me think!

I am a child by Peter Dixon

The first five or six years of my life are the most precious of my lifetime
They cannot be repeated
They cannot be redeemed or recaptured
If they are wasted then they are lost forever.
In life...

The Winter is long
The Autumn is long
The Summer is long

But the Spring is short

Parents and teachers you have my Spring in your hands
You can make it wonderful or you can destroy it
The pressures and demands of Ofsted try to take my childhood away from me
I do not want tests and curriculums, measurements and targets
My childhood doesnt need them, I am only beginning my life
Please let me be a child for six years.





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