Ratios and qualifications

[Emma Bailey_902595195]

Hi everybody..some advice needed.

I work in a small committee run Pre school with children from 2-4 years. There is a day when there will be 2 staff working. Are they allowed to have a level 3 and an unqualified committee member working? Or does there need to be a level 2 and 3?

Thank you in advance 

Edited November 26, 2020 by Emma Bailey_902595195

[hopeytg]

I was told that as long as the Level 3 was within ratio - the 2nd person did not need to be qualified. We are also a small setting but due to the age of the children we couldn't do it. 

[Dennie]

I'm in a committee setting.  As committee members are not usually employees I'm not sure they can be used in ratios.  I would ask the Early Years Alliance for advice and clarification.   I realise that there have been relaxations due to Covid-19 but would definitely check the latest legal requirements with a professional body.

[finleysmaid]

On 26/11/2020 at 23:20, Emma Bailey_902595195 said:

Hi everybody..some advice needed.

I work in a small committee run Pre school with children from 2-4 years. There is a day when there will be 2 staff working. Are they allowed to have a level 3 and an unqualified committee member working? Or does there need to be a level 2 and 3?

Thank you in advance 

You may have a volunteer. They do not need to be qualified but must be DBS checked (enhanced) and should not be allowed to be left unsupervised at any time. Be careful using a committee member as the rules are unclear about this. If they are a parent volunteer that appears to be ok ...if you start to pay them for their time it gets complicated (even if paid in free sessions or through benefits...eg free stuff!)

[Emma Bailey_902595195]

Thank you so much everybody x

[Gezabel]

I am confused! I thought you needed a level 3 to be 'in charge' and half the remaining staff needed to be at least level 2 - did i dream this?

 

[Gezabel]

Have I misunderstood this i now wonder?

33. 3.34.  For children aged three and over at any time in registered early years provision when a person with Qualified Teacher Status, Early Years Professional Status, Early Years Teacher Status or another suitable level 6 qualification is not working directly with the children:

    • there must be at least one member of staff for every eight children

    • at least one member of staff must hold a full and relevant level 3 qualification

    • at least half of all other staff must hold a full and relevant level 2 qualification

[finleysmaid]

3 hours ago, Gezabel said:

Have I misunderstood this i now wonder?

33. 3.34.  For children aged three and over at any time in registered early years provision when a person with Qualified Teacher Status, Early Years Professional Status, Early Years Teacher Status or another suitable level 6 qualification is not working directly with the children:

    • there must be at least one member of staff for every eight children

    • at least one member of staff must hold a full and relevant level 3 qualification

    • at least half of all other staff must hold a full and relevant level 2 qualification

so for three staff at least one at level 3 one at level 2/3 and one unqualified or above.

[finleysmaid]

my apologies as i fear i may have misunderstood as well. I thought the original post menat there would be 3 people but now reading it i assume only 2 in which case you are absolutely correct (IMO!)