HappyMaz Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Thanks to Kirsty who posted this on the FSF facebook page, Cathy Nutbrown has written for Nursery World to give her response to More Good Childcare. The NW article is here: http://www.nurserywo...hildcare-plans/ Her full paper 'Shaking the Foundations of Quality?' is here: http://www.shef.ac.u...nsofquality.pdf It makes very interesting reading: in her full paper she lists each of her recommendations and shows the Government's response to it. I'd say she's pretty cross! :angry: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueFinanceManager Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Thanks for posting this Maz...as you say Professor Nutbrown does not seem happy and quite rightly so 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueJ Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Thanks for posting Maz - Prof Nutbrown seems to be somewhat browned off - like all things the devil is in the detail and just like the cherry picking of elements of French childcare the proposals cherry pick elements of Prof Nutbrown's review and put them into an entirely different proposed context. I've mentioned before that one of my parents is French and when in France was a setting based childcarer. She has spoken to some of her old colleagues and now tells me that the ratios in France are now 1:7 for children not yet walking and 1:8 for children walking - no age bands mentioned and certainly no 1:13! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue R Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Were I her, I'd be in prison right now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sn0wdr0p Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Well it just shows why a politician should not have been responsible for the Government's response to Professor Nutbrown's report. Very interesting reading - by gosh she isn't happy and who can blame her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyfs1966 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 It does seem extraordinary doesn't it, this governement obsession with setting up a review, be it by Nutbrown or Leveson, then do their level best to ignore the recommendations made. Why have the review if you are not going to follow the recommendations? Just seems daft to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyfs1966 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Also, the report makes for both depressing and hillarious reading...depressing as it suggests so clearly that, as a sector, we have been let down, and hillarious, because you can't help but picture Cathy Nutbrown turning puce with smoke coming out of her ears as it was written. It's actually a refreshingly honest paper, but boy, she can make gher feelings known! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyfs1966 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Her response has made the BBC news today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Saw the response on BBC and it absolutely beggars belief that after all the money it must have cost to comission Cathy Nutbrown to complete her review and make her recommendations that they ignore it! I am an NNEB, QTS with EYs specialism and ive also completed my EYP (to jump through a hoop at the time!) and although I feel very well equipped as an Eys Teacher I definitely do not feel equipped to educate, care for and build relationships with any more children then I already have!! how can it be considerd quality if time is so dramatically reduced. In my previous role I was responsible for 3 babies in my care and I never fealt I was able to give them the time they needed, babies need attention, love, interaction and care, if anything the number should be reduced certainly not increased! I dont know about Cathy being annoyed I think the entire EYs work force is strongly behind her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I was a tad surprised at the openness of the response...good for her!! It really shows how they've manipulated things - love the comparison table! I'm not sure the government are used to 'back chat' - let's hope this rallies and affects the proposals I was surprised recently when I heard about an application from someone fresh out of college, straight in to doing their EYPS- with no practical experience to back up the qualification. Due to qualify and looking for a job to put knowledge in to practice. I'm taken aback as I feel it undermines the qualification completely - I see (and was led to believe years ago) the EYPS as 'validating' and improving on the experiences of high quality practitioners - my cynicism has once again returned...will we really ever get back to the old NNEB standards?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberyTwirl Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I was reminded of this today all about changing the paradigms of education in society Ken Robinson was part of the National Advisory Committee on Creative and Cultural Education. Government didn't like what he said... so he fled over the pond! Made me think of Cathy Nutbrown.... don't give up on us yet Cathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueJ Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Love this clip - I have the link on my setting website and flag it up to parents - often use the biscuit batching analogy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I was reminded of this today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U all about changing the paradigms of education in society Ken Robinson was part of the National Advisory Committee on Creative and Cultural Education. Government didn't like what he said... so he fled over the pond! Made me think of Cathy Nutbrown.... don't give up on us yet Cathy. Thankyou for sharing. I have another just discovered another link that has just reached within and touched me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowlow Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Thank Goodness for Cathy Nutbrown an amazing response that actually makes me think we stand a chance after all!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenI Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Hi All Here are some more links to the response to More Great Childcare urging us to unit on June 1st which is Children's Day and take over the early years debate. http://juneosullivan.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/dear-colleagues-its-time-we-finally-took-control/ http://togetherforquality.com/reclaim-early-years/ http://www.savechildhood.net/uploads/1/8/4/9/1849450/scm_press_release_29th_april_2013.pdf http://www.shef.ac.uk/polopoly_fs/1.263201!/file/Shakingthefoundationsofquality.pdf Nursery World article on Mumsnet supporting the campaign NUT response (see attachment) DFE-CONST-EARLY-ED-CHILCARE-RESPONSE.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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