Guest Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) Just wondering if other EYFS staff in schools have curriculum areas for other key stages? Also should there be a named manager of EYFS with extra responsibilities eg TLR's Edited June 14, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) Hi unicid, I am in preschool, but I do have a little bit of working knowledge of our school as I was a Governor for 4 years. Yes, foundation stage teachers had curriculum responsibilities, one was ICT. As for TLR's when they were first talked about, we were going to use them for Literacy, Numeracy, ICT and Science, we had a Deputy Head in charge of KS2 and a Deputy Head in KS1 and Early Years. Then the structure changed and we went down to just one Deputy Head and therefore needed someone as line manager at the KS1 & EY classes as most were inexperienced teachers. So yes a TLR was created down there and Science took a back burner. Don't know if that is any help? Forgot to say it wasn't a requirement to have a TLR in EY. Edited June 14, 2009 by Shiny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Just wondering if other EYFS staff in schools have curriculum areas for other key stages? Also should there be a named manager of EYFS with extra responsibilities eg TLR's No should about it. It depends on the agreed school structure. And yes, EYFS staff do usually have other curriculum responsibilities. I always have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 We don't have a TLR for Early Years - I wish!!!! The responsibilities are split between all the teacher's in the school. I have maths and music, my year R colleague has ICT, other members of staff have the other subjects. The deputy and TLR teacher have slightly more than anyone else but otherwise it is pretty evenly split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I'm Literacy Coordinator, SENCO, INCO, Child Protection Designated Teacher, Multi Agency Liaison, Extended Schools, SEAL and joint responsibility for ICT ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquieL Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Yes me too Susan, and more than one curriculum area but I did have a SLT position as well. I think most teachers have a curriculum area especially in small schools, where more than one seems to be the norm. The TLR structure is down to the Governing Body of a school and their priorities. I think whether a TLR would be available would be also depend on how the school itself is structured regarding the responsibilities of the staff. That would also depend on the size of the school probably. Certainly there are many Foundation Stage Co-ordinator posts advertised with a TLR attached. Perhaps you could have a look at job descriptions of those posts advertised to give you some idea of what is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquieL Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I'm Literacy Coordinator, SENCO, INCO, Child Protection Designated Teacher, Multi Agency Liaison, Extended Schools, SEAL and joint responsibility for ICT ... Marion I am exhausted just reading your reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tinkerbell Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 In a small school you really have no choice. Tinkerbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Trouble is I'm not in a small school (well not that small 250 children ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 There are alot of Early Years Co-Ord's out there advertised with TLR, but in my experience, good Early Years teachers are few and far between, so offer TLR as incentive to fill the post should it become vacant. I know alot of EY's with no TLR, but not looking to move either ... perhaps this would change if they were???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I consider myself very lucky after reading the replies as I just run the 39 place unit. We are a 3 form entry school the foundation stage co-ordinator is a TLR but has no other responsibility. Don't know when I would co-ordinate another subject as being responsible for 78 children and doing all their records and all the administration for nursery takes up all my time.Only way I keep just about on top of things is working 0.8 so do alot on my day off. Anne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 Thanks to everyone for your replies. Thats clarified things for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I am Foundation Stage Leader, ICT Coordinator and PE Coordinator. When I took up being FS leader in September it came with a TLR and a place on the senior management team and all the joys that come along with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I think after your NQT year you are required to have some type of subject responsibility aren't you? Isn't that in TP+C? TLRs is a different matter and comes in the long history of extra money for bigger leadership responsibilities that started with A and B posts! Anyone out there remember them??? A posts were for a year long project and B posts were for middle management, though in those days it mostly consisted of ordering stuff out of catalogues!! Cx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquieL Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I had a B allowance all those years ago and had very much more to do than order stuff out of catalogues. That was about the easiest thing I did, especially as most of it was wishful thinking. There wasn't much money around for the Nursery and Infant Department, as they were called before they became Foundation Stage and Key Stage One. I do remember a lovely EY's Advisor coming in, and he asked me what I would wish for. At that time I wanted a woodwork bench and tools for it. They were so expensive. A couple of weeks later they were delivered and it felt like Christmas. Next time he came he sent me some Maths equipment. I was lucky to work in a very good authority for Early Years and we had lots of excellent training from people like Mary Jane Drummond and Margery Whalley. We had an active BAECE branch as well. I think we were well ahead of our time in many ways, or some of us were, and a lot of what was introduced in Desirable Outcomes and now in EYFS was already in place in the best schools. In those days we had to write our own curriculum, which was a mammoth task, especially trying to ensure continuity all the way through the school. Still we didn't have all this endless paperwork to justify everything and we had more time for the children, and I'm not really sure that the children were any worse off, as we knew them so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I think things changed with the workforce reform The current STPC document says that teachers cannot be expected to take on subject responsibility unless they are paid for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Ah, then it's changed or not what I thought it was - TLRs came in just as I left to be a consultant so I wasn't that involved given I was going onto soulbury anyway. Cx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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