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There are various ones I’ve bought over the years eg https://groceries.asda.com/product/hand-wash/radox-kids-frozen-antibacterial-handwash/910002548399

We tell parents that what we normally use when they come and look round and it hasn’t been a problem. Only very occasionally, one has eczema and they provide something different, sometimes prescribed, and we use that for that child

We’ve always used anti bac hand soap unless they have eczema etc and parents provide an alternative. We didn’t use hand gel just made sure they washed hands frequently when we reopened. I think I read that you can use the hand gel but under supervision which you would be anyway. Not sure though.

Yes as with many of the proposals - flout it, see what the reaction is then decide Or close it down 😬

I’m the same as you - I’m the only one over 50 and wouldn’t want to leave them to it and there would be issues if I did do that. Goodness me, what a complicated, worrying situation it is 😬

That sounds perfectly reasonable! Sometimes people have no idea (and don’t bother to find out) how much work and stress there is in trying to work out how your setting is going to survive this, then trying to work out what the guidance means in your particular situation, all the risk assessment, changing guidance, dealing with parents who may not be happy with different arrangements and a million other things. sorting out resources takes ages and needs doing so it’s good use of the time

Good principle

Haven’t set anything up and my draft risk assessment still says no soft furnishings or soft toys as that’s what the most recent guidance still says. I’d be surprised if that’s loosened with all the stuff around increases in infections tbh. But I’m not finalising anything And definitely not setting the room up til a few days before term starts.

That makes sense! That’s a good idea; I’ll think about doing that as well.

I haven’t been having them out since we reopened and the guidance seems same on that. The trouble is our children will attend across the week and ‘cross contaminate’. don’t know really - sorry!

New guidance today. Which I haven’t looked at yet... https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-early-years-and-childcare-closures/coronavirus-covid-19-early-years-and-childcare-closures

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Does make sense - so much to wrestle with and take into account 😱

Good idea about Date in footer

Thank you very much for this - really helpful

I thought I’d replied but can’t see my reply for some reason. Thank you for this; no I hadn’t seen it (had been relying on the local authority to send us these updates as they say they are, but nothing received unfortunately). I can’t see parents signing up new children without physically visiting the setting and it’s going to be difficult to re settle children who won’t have been in for the best part of six months, without their parents supporting them by coming through the door. I will probably go with what you say and have protective measures like hand sanitiser, encourage social distancing where possible etc. It seems clear that physical visits are not desirable though. “Parents and carers should not be allowed into the setting unless this is essential, and children should be dropped off and collected at the door if possible.“ “Settings should consider providing virtual tours for prospective parents and carers wishing to visit the setting for September admissions.“ It’s also still saying SALT visitors and others shouldn’t come unless ‘essential’ - what is deemed essential? I still wonder if this will change again before September. feeing stressed 😩

Not at all! I feel the same - wondering whether to review the blasted risk assessment and all the other stuff or just leave it til nearer the time, but then I don’t like leaving stuff til the end of the holiday 😬

Hi, do people think the guidance for early years will change again before September? Or are you working on the assumption that the latest version (2nd July I think) will stand and the only big difference is no bubbles but other measures still should remain eg avoiding children and staff attending two settings, staggered starts, minimise visitors etc? Settling new children will be a challenge! I’m thinking of trying to dissuade returning children’s parents from coming in, having a socially distanced queuing system, only having even new children’s parents where really necessary, only one parent per child, no siblings if possible etc

I'm cynical about it too. Quite convenient really...

same as the others have said - no PPE unless for nappies etc or if a child is symptomatic

Great that you got it anyway. Will help with the autumn term I’m sure.

Thanks for that. Our pay is split over 12 months as well and paid kind of as we go along so I see how that would be reasonable to put a claim in for August. I’ve only got one person I’ve furloughed but it would be really helpful to have that income. Well done for getting that grant. I didn’t bother applying - the criteria would have precluded us I think.

I see what you mean. Confused!

Have you all seen the latest guidance? Now looks like getting the Early Years Free Entitlement Funding probably means not being eligible for the JRS unless a lot of your income comes from private fees. Unless I've misunderstood. Which is possible!! I've only skim read it as it's Friday night. "The early years section of the new guidance confirms that a private provider should only furlough employees, and therefore seek support through the Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme (CJRS), if they meet the following conditions: the employee works in an area of business where services are temporarily not required and where their salary is not covered by public funding; the employee would otherwise be made redundant or laid off; the employee is not involved in delivering provision that has already been funded (free entitlement funding); (where appropriate) the employee is not required to deliver provision for a child of a critical worker and/or vulnerable child; and the grant from the CJRS would not be duplicative to other public grants received and would not lead to financial reserves being created. If it is difficult to distinguish whether staff are funded through free entitlement or private income for the purposes of meeting the first three conditions as listed above, then an early years provider can access the CJRS to cover up to the proportion of its paybill which could be considered to have been paid for from that provider’s private income.This would typically be income received from ‘parent-paid’ hours, and excludes all income from the government’s free entitlements (or ‘DSG income’) for all age groups. The guidance includes an illustration of how this would work in practice" Here is the actual guidance https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-financial-support-for-education-early-years-and-childrens-social-care/coronavirus-covid-19-financial-support-for-education-early-years-and-childrens-social-care?utm_source=Foundation+Years&utm_campaign=d97a9fa42e-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_03_21_05_01_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_8f9a6de061-d97a9fa42e-321568377&mc_cid=d97a9fa42e&mc_eid=1c2323b3c8 scroll down for the sector specific guidance for Early Years.