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marley
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Hi all

Its a school club, well holiday club question.

 

We have a boy that started to come during the holidays for 2 days per holiday week. He needs one to one and has always previoulsy been funded ie they pay for the session and pay the staff wages (Breaks in Partnership).

 

For some reason they will not be funding the xmas holidays. Mum still wants him to come for 2 days and will pay herself (still trying to find out why she cant get funding) for the sessions and staff wages. Cost will be about £100.

 

What do you think of this? Any advice? Just need to check what others think before we proceed.

 

Thanks all

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I guess he would not be able to attend without 1-1 support?

 

I also guess if you are happy to take the child, and mum is happy to pay there shouldn't be a problem?

 

Or do the previous funders provide the staff, along with the child, or is the staff from your staff pool?

 

Maybe mum can claim attendance allowance (I think that's what it's called), does the child receive DLA? this could help towards costs.

 

Sorry more questions than answers.

 

Peggy

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Hi Peggy

 

He was receiving funding but havent got to bottom why he cant use for xmas holiday club yet. Just been told mum is willing to pay. he definately needs one to one and mum is really pleased with the satff member we supply for him.

 

I didnt know if charging went against code of practice, equality etc however we would not be able to afford to keep paying an extra playworker.

 

Thanks

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Hi Peggy

 

He was receiving funding but havent got to bottom why he cant use for xmas holiday club yet. Just been told mum is willing to pay. he definately needs one to one and mum is really pleased with the satff member we supply for him.

 

I didnt know if charging went against code of practice, equality etc however we would not be able to afford to keep paying an extra playworker.

 

Thanks

 

We have this situation at the moment. We previously looked after a little boy who required one-one. We recieved funding to supply this. He started school in September but mum is keen for him to come back in the holidays. However we won't have any funding for this but the little boy still requires one-one. Mum has also offered to pay but we are very unsure of whether we can accept extra payment??!! Interested to see replies to your post!

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I would have thought if you are a business you are able to charge for your services?

 

 

The parent may claim DLA and is using this to fund or maybe simply just have grandparents (or similar) that are happy toy pay. If you think about it logically, if you took a child out to a theme park for a day how much would that cost?... therefore £50 might actually be a cheap option!

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Hi all

Thanks for all the replies.

I was worried if it contravened equlity act etc. However asked my supervisor at pre-school what she thought and she said as far as she would be concerned then if mum was willing to pay then thats ok. He is being offered extra service ie the one to one which requires payment as as we are a charity we could not afford to pay the staff ourselves.

 

So have gone with it.

 

The reason he doesnt get funding is that the dont fund during the xmas holidays! Wonder why??!

 

Thanks again.

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The only word of warning I would add is to check that if by paying herself, would mum effectively cut herself off from accessing funding in the future. The reason I ask is that we have had a situation in out authority over funded two year olds, where if the parent approaches us for a place and then we try to help them access two year old funding (which most people don't know even exists in our LA) we get told the parent could obviously afford the place so they can't apply for the funding, regardless of the other qualifying factors. Otherwise I can't see there being an issue but it makes me very mad that some parents in our LA have been striving to do the best for their child but really need that support and then because they tried to help themselves they get penalised. (I'll put my Rant Pants away again now!)

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The only word of warning I would add is to check that if by paying herself, would mum effectively cut herself off from accessing funding in the future. The reason I ask is that we have had a situation in out authority over funded two year olds, where if the parent approaches us for a place and then we try to help them access two year old funding (which most people don't know even exists in our LA) we get told the parent could obviously afford the place so they can't apply for the funding, regardless of the other qualifying factors. Otherwise I can't see there being an issue but it makes me very mad that some parents in our LA have been striving to do the best for their child but really need that support and then because they tried to help themselves they get penalised. (I'll put my Rant Pants away again now!)

 

 

Fully understand your rant - just because a context is self funded for a while doesn't automatically mean that the individual is able to self fund for the long term. Beaurocrats (spl?) sometimes only see the obvious but rarely the long term situation.

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We had a similer situtation a year ago and was told by Early Years, that parents should

not pay any extra themselves for the childs care.I would have words with your Early years team

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Hi Rosy

Not sure if this makes a difference but he is 11 yrs old and not early years? He used to come to the attached school, but left last year to go to a specialist school. Mum is desperate for a break during the shool holidays and gets so many days funding per year to access holiday care. Its just they dont pay out at xmas.

 

If mum didnt pay we would have to refuse a place as we would not be able to afford to fund the playworker one to one at a cost of £50 per day! If we did that for him then what about the next child or the next...would be put out of business.

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In terms of DDA, I think you are able to charge extra for the additional cost that you incur for supporting this child.

 

My friend was a driving instructor, and he was told that if he wanted to have his car adapted to have hand controls for students with disabilities (they switch on and off so make the car dual use) he would be able to recoup that cost by charging a higher hourly rate for students needing the hand controls.

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