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Hi

Just wondered what happens re funding for school clubs that need to take on extra staff for a SEN child that needs one to one. (in fact we may even be looking for 2!)

We have been told the school will take the funding? Is this correct? How, as a charity are we to finance this?

We struggle to recruit anyway so not sure how we are going to get staff for this.

 

Any advice re funding etc appreciated

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Guest jenpercy
Hi

Just wondered what happens re funding for school clubs that need to take on extra staff for a SEN child that needs one to one. (in fact we may even be looking for 2!)

We have been told the school will take the funding? Is this correct? How, as a charity are we to finance this?

We struggle to recruit anyway so not sure how we are going to get staff for this.

 

Any advice re funding etc appreciated

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We apply for funds through our Early Years - one of the grants that they have is for Inclusion. If you can write apply for funds as soon as possible, as they won't fund retrospectively, and they may not fund something you have started to do - AND although you can refuse to take a child on the grounds that you will not be able to offer relevant level of support, giving them notice because funding didn't materialise is another kettle of fish.

 

get on to Erly years asap.

 

We have had a child funded by school on temporary basis (we are not on school site) but schools themselves have to apply for funding for a particular child if special measures are to continue. By all means ask the school's advice about funding and if they will support your application.

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I would suggest you talk to the school(s) that these two children attend.

 

Speaking with my "member of my LA's Schools Funding Forum" hat on, I do know that some school hold a "discretionary" fund for things like holiday clubs for needy children meeting set criteria, not sure if SEN is included - you never know they might be able to pay you something towards costs.

 

Hey its worth asking, good luck.

 

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Hi

Well apparently we have to apply using an initial concerns form (sounds more like safeguarding!) but have been told we will only get approx. 1 hour.

 

Other thing we have been told is that even if we are full ie max of 40 children/session then we have to accept SEN child and let down one of our regular children. Have asked someone to check this out as surely this is discrimination against the other children on waiting list?

 

Anyone else know about this?

 

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we have something called 'aiming high' running in this borough as the government has just put a huge amount of money into this area. If your children have ASD try going through your local charity, your area senco should know (if you have one!) - wouldn't surprise me about the waiting list situation as this is what happens for schools .If the children have statements you may be able to apply to your council, direct, contact their support workers.

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Well apparently we have to apply using an initial concerns form (sounds more like safeguarding!) but have been told we will only get approx. 1 hour.

 

Other thing we have been told is that even if we are full ie max of 40 children/session then we have to accept SEN child and let down one of our regular children. Have asked someone to check this out as surely this is discrimination against the other children on waiting list?

 

Anyone else know about this?

 

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i think you have some kind of system where people have to reapply for sessions every month? Our children after school have their regular sessions booked in every month unless they give us a month's notice. If they are already booked, you cannot draw a name out of a hat for who to turn away. Also, you can turn down a child with disabilities if you do not feel you have enough staff booked in for a particular session to meet their extra needs. Of course, if such a child is given a regular booking, you have to find cover if the staff members go down. It is a matter of safeguarding (in the health & safety sense) if you take in a child without having sufficient resources to look after them.

This could mean, that you could turn away a child with disabilities, and then take a child without, but only if the child has been assessed by you as needing extra support that you are not able to provide.

 

I am sure that the other person who answered and said that schools have to turn away children to accomodate children with additional means did not mean that schools have to expell a pupil if they need resources for a CWD.

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Hi Jen

Yes that is the big concern for us at the moment is that we dont feel we have suitable staff to cope with this. The only one would be the manager but she could not do it surely as she has to manage other things. The deputy is only part time and does not work certain days (will only come in on those days if manager ill) the others are young ( only one out three lev 2 qualified) and do not have the experience...they may soon have to get some! We are advertising for another lev 3 but thats not for the SEN cover. Will have to see what (if any) applicants we get.

 

We do book on a month by month basis but priority goes to those users who have used the club the longest eg year 6 children get priority over any new reception children

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