Guest Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 (edited) Hi Following on from my staff training post a member said that the child protection, food hygiene etc has to be renewed every 3 years. I knew the first aid did but did not know child protection did. Where does it state this? Anyone else do this ? Is it just good practice? Thanks Plus Im sure first aid certificate has expiry date but does child protection one have one? Edited May 8, 2010 by marley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panders Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 My child protection/safeguarding doesn't have an expiry date, but I do think it is good practice for all to go along every 2 years or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 There are regulations for school but I dont know where you can access these. It used to be renewal every 3 years or 2 years for designated person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 I was told that Specialist Safeguarding, for those who are the Safeguarding Co-ordinator has to be done every 2 years, O will fail you if its not done and renewed, and that all othe staff should have some training at least once every 3 years. Food Hygiene, like 1st Aid is every 3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gezabel Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 I was told that Specialist Safeguarding, for those who are the Safeguarding Co-ordinator has to be done every 2 years, O will fail you if its not done and renewed, I have not heard of 'specialist' safeguarding I am not saying that OFSTED failing settings if this is not done has never happened but it is certainly not the case in our recent inspection (February 2010). Safeguarding was discussed at length and no staff had been on any recent training simply because there has not been any. Our county offers 'e-learning' in safeguarding and others areas but actual 'attending training' was something we could not show and we got a 'good' overall. The e-learning courses are great for refreshing but it is very easy to do the quiz at the end and just keep going until you get all the answers right before printing the certificate - I don't think the certificate proves anything but then I have an aversion to 'attendance certificates' too as they prove very little! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Maybe its just local to Oxfordshire then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 Maybe its just local to Oxfordshire then. Certainly in Oxfordshire the lead person must have done the Specialist Course and all staff must do Generalist training. If any staff member has not done this it could lead to an unsatisfactory result - according to our EYAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hali Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 all mandatory courses should be re newed every 3 years and depending on the LA lead practitioners every 2/3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 AAARRGGGHHH Dont you just hate it when this happens!!! LEA,s all have different goalposts! Must admit I have sat and read through all the statutory framework and it just says on induction that staff should have child protection training and know the policy. I realise that the designated person is different.Same for food hygiene. No mention of what sort of training and that it has to be renewed. I quote "The provider must ensure that all members of staff understand the safeguarding policy and procedure.....Except in childminding settings, a practitioner must be designated to take lead responsibility for safeguarding children within the setting and liaising with local statutory children's services agencies as appropriate. They must also attend a child protection training course" At least one person who has a current paediatric first aid certificate must be on the premises at all times when children are present. " So this would be every 3 yrs as sates on certificates. Those responsible for the preparation and handling of food must be competent to do so. In group provision, food hygiene matters should be included in induction and on-the-job training, which is available to all staff involved in the preparation and handling of food. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 There are regulations for school but I dont know where you can access these. It used to be renewal every 3 years or 2 years for designated person. Hi Yes found this guidance for schools on teacher.net. Itb seems that the designated person at the school spends time to train the other teachers. They have to get refreher training every 2 yrs. Cant you tell what i have been doing all afternoon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jenpercy Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 At our OFSTED inspection, we were asked about Safeguarding Training. Like you this is the first we heard of an expiry date, but they weere not happy and told us ours was out of date. food hygiene now has an expiry date of 3 years and OFSTE wanted to know that several of us had a certificate, not just on the job induction training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2010 Share Posted May 8, 2010 I think it's considered good practise to renew safeguarding training, especially since the training I have been on recently seems to have become a lot more sensible. Before our recent training I practically had an argument with a long standing member of staff who claimed you 'can't ask children questions about injuries at all'. I tried to point out that if this was the case no one would ever find anything out and that it was actually that you couldn't ask leading questions but this person was having none of it. Luckily when we all went on the training these misconnceptions were corrected, along with one that several of our staff had about "you have to let the child go even if the parent is drunk because it's their right as a parent". Poor children! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjayne Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 My understanding is also that Safegaurding training is renewed every 2-3 yearsfor the person designated as having the lead for Safeguarding ,and staff recieve regular updates also either in-house or through courses. Also if that person is involved in recruitment the Safeguarding and Safer Recruitment training also has to be completed. In schools there has to be somebody who is on the interview panel with this training and I thought it was also the same for Nurseries ( or will be in the near future) Don't forget you can register with the CDWC to complete some of this training online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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