Guest Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 We have two children with Epipen's and I explain to new staff how to use them in an emergency. Some of the staff felt they would not want to give the Epipen in an emergency without special training. They were mainly worried if something went wrong and it didn't work. We were all shown how to do administer the Epipen at a first aid course, but haven't had to use it yet thankfully. I am wondering if any of you had separate Epipen training administered ?
calicojo Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 I think you need to have specialist epipen training if you have a child who has one - and i think there are implications with your insurance. I am in a similar position to you - one of our children has recently been prescribed an epipen and i cannot find anyone to train us - his doctor or nurse from the surgery won't come out. The next course arranged by the LA is in June and that covers mainly asthma which we don't really need. i am also worried about how / where we should be storing the epipens. Can anyone suggest where to get training from? Thanks Jo
Pimms o'clock? Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 I would check with your insurers. We did and had to have a "Health Professional" involved with the child come to our setting and give training to all staff to comply with our insurers, in this case it was a District Nurse. At the end of the day insurers are the ones that would have to pay out if, god forbid, anything goes wrong - so what they say must count for something. Hope this helps with your dilema and puts staff minds at rest about it. BMG
narnia Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 nurse at our doctors surgery gave us a training session on how to use them, and gave us a letter to show insurers that we'd been trained
Guest Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 I will check with the PLA tomorrow as I am insured through them. Thanks
Guest Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) I've had this email sitting in my inbox, don't know if it will help anyone........... Learn HQ Ltd have today launched a new course adding to their already extensive range of childcare and education eLearning courses. The course ‘Safe and Effective use of an EpiPen’ is designed to provide information on anaphylaxis and how and when to use an EpiPen both on yourself and someone in your care. This course is available free of charge and can be downloaded from the link below. http://www.learnhq.com/epipen.html For further information on our courses please visit www.learnhq.com Kind regards Paul T: +44 (0) 1285 659000 F: +44 (0) 1285 657198 M: +44 (0) 7501 490501 E: paul.hurrell@learnhq.com Learn HQ Limited Globe House Love Lane Cirencester Gloucestershire GL7 1YG Nona p.s. I should add that I did the on-line training to refresh my knowledge and it covered everything I'd been taught on my Epipen training course, (delivered by a Specialist Nurse form B'hams Children's Hospital) and has some useful links to other sources of training and information! Edited April 19, 2010 by Guest
Smiles Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 We have a child who has an epipen and had to have a letter from the child's GP/consultant stating the child's condition and what medication if any is to be administered , written consent from the parent or guardian allowing staff to administer medication; and proof of training in the administration of such medication by the child's GP, a district nurse, children’s’ nurse specialist or a community paediatric nurse. We then sent of all three letters relating to these children must first be sent to the Pre-school Learning Alliance Insurance Department for appraisal (if you have another provider, please check their procedures with them). Confirmation was then sent to us in writing confirming that the insurance covered us.
blondie Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 ours was the same as smiles. you arent covered unless you do all the above and we were told the children shouldnt be in unless parent stayed too until all above was done .
korkycat Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Same here although it was years ago now. We contacted Children's hospital and were trained by staff nurse at clinic child attended. This was arranged with help of parent and we too had to have everything in place before child could stay without parent. korkycat
Guest Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 you need to consult managing medicines in schools and early years settings (2005). Each child with a condition needs to have a health plan put in place and there are proformas that need to be completed, such as health professional training for each member of staff, this needs to be updated yearly, we have just had this training for a child with diabetes. You also need to contact your insurance and inform them. The child's gp and other professionals also contribute to the health plan. Staff can refuse to administer treatment (as stated in the medicines document) however staff are reminded of the 'duty of care' under the sen code of practice etc. Also a child can refuse treatment and their is guidance about what procedures to put in place should this ever happen. Hope this helps
redjayne Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 We had a similar situation as people above - the practice nurse came in and trained all the staff and we informed the insurance company as well. Just having normal First Aid training isn't enough and it is important to feel confident in what you are doing as potentially it could be a life or death situation.
Guest Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I think you need to have specialist epipen training if you have a child who has one - and i think there are implications with your insurance. Can anyone suggest where to get training from? Thanks Jo We hooked up with a local primary school and joined there training session when they had one. if they have any spares places they now offer them to the pre-school so that the certificates are updated annually.
Sue R Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 We have a child with an epipen. Every year an allergies nurse from local hospital comes in to give us training 1) to refresh and 2) for new staff. I really think it's important to have specific training for this . Sue
lynned55 Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 Just to reiterate what others have said, It is not only important but vital you get this training done asap. I think you will find if anything were to happen your insurance would not cover you. We have had a few children over the last few years with epi pens and each time we (all staff) have had to have training and issued with certificates Even when we still had one child with one and another starting a year later, we still had to have training from a professional. Each time it's been a nurse attached to the childs surgery that has come in.
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