Guest Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 I actually find phase 4 to be a bit of a nonsense. I think most children who can read words with vowel digraphs can certainly read adjacent consonants. I would be delighted if children came up to year one and knew all their phase 3 sounds. It rarely happens in our school though. We split all our reception/year one and year two into 5 groups. Often the teacher who is teaching phase 3 tends to combine it with phase 4. I personally would teach the alternatives as and when they crop up in writing or reading, not in the phonics teaching. I think we should more or less follow Letters and Sounds order of teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 We do have to report them because we are a funded CLLD authority and as such work very closely with the regional advisers to ensure a clear set of expected milestones is shared across the settings that are reported on. As I say it will be the same expectation across all 50 funded LAs. Cx ps do we have a new feature on the site - spell checking seems to be going on as I type!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 We are a CLLD school and have to set targets for the number of children who we think will be secure at phase 3 by end of year (i.e. working within phase 4). I have found Phase 4 can be tricky for some children even when good at phase 3. Putting those two consonants together is hard for some of them, particularly when segmenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 ps do we have a new feature on the site - spell checking seems to be going on as I type!!! Lucky you! I used to have a spell check within firefox but somewhere along the line with its updates I lost it but would welcome its return! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Ahhhh that would explain it -was using firefox not usual browser! Cx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Hi. Can I use this thread to ask a question. When introducing ch sound, have others had children offer words like train and track? What have you done to rectify it? I used Jolly Phonics song "the train goes chugging up the hill" - a feely bag game and then asked for children's suggestions. I also have two children still mixing up b and d (one of these two, also confusing i and j). Any good ideas to sort this one out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I think this is a problem with JP some children focus on the stories and pictures rather than on the sounds. I find /r/and /n/ actions-stories often cause confusion. For b and d we hold our hands out in front and make a fist then pop up the thumbs and say the rhyme to make a bed for baby first we need a b (left hand) e comes in the middle finish with a d (right hand) i and j are less confusing if shown sitting on and under a line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I made some posters using my daughter hands which I have on display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Thank you Marion and Greenteaaddict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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