Guest Kristine Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Hi, I would like to ask how much time you all set aside for working on your eyeprofiles and how often? Do you get cover? Do you work on it after school together or on weekends at home? thanks Kristine x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Hi - I record the children's achievements in their learning diaries as and when - i try to set aside time during the week after school to do this and then when they need updating for data reasons I update my eyeprofile using my laptop at home in the evenings - I could use PPA time for this but would rather use my ppa time for things I cant do at home - if you see what I mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kristine Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Hi thanks - PPA time? Planning time? How much planning time do you get? So far I do all the profile work at home, as well as other planning. It's tough. We have only one EY class, and there is only me... you get the picture As we grow and grow, I really need to look at this seriously, so would appreciate honest feedback. Should I shut up, and do it at home (like I am sure most of us do!) K x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LornaW Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Kristine if you are working in a maintained school and work full time you should get about one afternoon per week as Planning Preparation and Assessment time-PPA. This is 10% of your working week. As the EYE-Profile is summative then I would suggest you update it about three times per year using your observations as suggested by ems. Best times are end of first term so Autumn A, February halfterm Spring A and then end of the summer summer B ready to send off to your LA. Lorna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 We all do our profile work at home in our own time. The pre-school just can't afford to pay us for time we are not physically running a session for fee paying children so that's just how it is at the moment. Since EYFS changes though this work has increased and we are all feeling it so much more. Doesn't help either that we find the new profiles soooo confusing - Is this just me? Got EY advisory visit in the morning (and have hundreds of queries up my sleeve for her!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Sorry - just realised this is not the pre-school stage of the forum! By the way - do you foundation stage peeps actually regard all the work us pre-schoolers put together for when our children leave us to join you?? It was suggested to us that you start from scratch but i'm not sure. x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 hi we have assessment week. Then i record the chns progress on a paper version of the profile for the head. and on the computer i do 5 a day and get it all done in a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kristine Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Thanks everyone! Yes, I do value what Nursery teachers do with the profiles! This year I have a mixed class 3 - 5 years I thought we were supposed to be doing the profiles for two years? Nursery to Reception? Or am I totally confused? K x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 We are supposed to now use them for the two years and when Ofsted visited us recently they looked at valued added from entry to Nursery to the end of the Reception year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 My LA says EYFSP fpr reception NOT nursery ...I do it at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) The only statutory duty you have with EYEProfile is to complete it at the end of reception! I know it has two years worth of dates but I think we should stick to doing it in reception or before you know where you are it will be statutory from 3 onwards!!!! And I think we track our children enough as it is! See Margaret Edgington's letter in the TES this week! Edited March 29, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I'd missed the letter Emilia thanks for bringing it to my attention http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=6010864 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tinkerbell Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 My TA and I fill it in each half term we use a full wednesday morning ,my PPA time and the contracted teacher is brilliant as she has the class on her own 21 children ( open classroom next door with teacher and TA if any problems) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lou73 Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Hi Totally new to this but here goes. I work in a nursery attached to an infant school and i fill in profiles for reception teachers three times a year in December, March and June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Welcome lou73! The EYE-Profile is not meant to be filled in until the end of EYFS although looking at it you would think it should be as it has dates for info for over two years. We don't ask our nursery to fill it in but we do start to use it in reception and put the first judgements on the eye-profie in Nov the like you but Feb then June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 We are supposed to now use them for the two years and when Ofsted visited us recently they looked at valued added from entry to Nursery to the end of the Reception year! From my information (and this is pretty much my day job at the moment) the fact that the eyePRofile has the capacity to track across 2 years is not indicative of a policy change at QCA level. It is merely a function that Suffolk LA who develop it have added. As Marion rightly says the EYFSP is statutory at the END of the EYFS. The eyeProfile is a recording tool, not "The Profile". However, I do encourage my schools to look at the early scale points i.e. 1- 3, those before the end of key stage expectations ELG linked points) as summative assessment at transition points to reception. Otherwise i do not think it is appropriate. The EYFS and the EYFSP dovetail and can be used to show progress quite clearly, as the EYFSP is inextricably linked to the ELGs which are within the EYFS. Cx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tinkerbell Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Whilst I agree that we only have to record the reception children's achievements at the end of the reception year for the EYFS.WE have to send these points into the LEA. As far as my HT is concerned she wants to know how the children are making progress throughout the year. We also hold 3 parents evenings one each term,I have to report to parents how the children are doing so I may as well use the e-profile as a tool to do this. I don't particulrly like the e-profile as there are many faults with it, but it is all we have at the moment. Tinkerbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragoncheese64 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Hi, I negotiated a full day each term to input the eprofile data. I moderate my co-worker's assessments and we upload together. This has been a sticky issue before, but I noticed that other co-ordinators were getting one day per term to moderate / examine their subject area work throughout the school. If you don't ask, you don't get. The workload in reception in crazy. The longer we continue to work day and night,. the longer they will let us. Yes I am dedicated and I do care, but I also want to live to retirement!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tinkerbell Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 welcome dragon cheese love the name Tinkerbellx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Hi This is my first year in Reception. What exactly is the procedure for finishing the EyeProfiles, what do we do with them when we have completed them for the last time????? How do we send them to the authorities and when do we have to do it by? Help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tinkerbell Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Hi Sladetribe Welcome Your LEA will give you a date for the e-profile information to be sent to them. I print of the component overall sheet and give it to the school bursar/secretary to send in to the LEA...I think they have a format to follow. Tinkerbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Thank you SO much, No-one at school seems to know. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catma Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I find that odd as they have to have been reporting EYFSP outcomes for the last 5 years......the LA will tell you what you need to do generally. Ours is just informing schools next week. Cx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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