Toileting Forms

[Lyanne]

What would the school do if the parents are unobtainable? & what do they do when a child wets/soils their clothes? We had a parent last year who got very cross with their child each time they wet themselves (about once a month & a sign they were coming down with something), because 'you can't do that in school!' We assured the parent that children do wet themselves in school, that school would be fine about a bag of spare clothes for child in case of accidents, & that there will be spare clothes in school at least till year 2. But am now thinking I should be asking schools what they currently do before I say that to another parent.

[narnia]

They ask for anamed person who can come in to deal with it. I think that's dreadful and I think the school staff should change the child themselves, immediately. Anything less is degrading for the child and a lack of care

[lsp]

Maybe we need to encourage parents to ask the question about what happens when they go to their induction evenings. If they do not get an answer that they are happy with, take it to Governors (do schools still have those??)

[grumpymum]

Zigzag

 

We don't do it for children who mainly toilet independently unless they ask for help e.g. bottom wiping, but do for all our younger ones. We have been advised to record any instances where a member of staff undertakes any intimate care procedure.

 

Sunnyday

 

It was a real pain at first but is now part of any nappy changing/toileting routine - circle for dry wet or soiled/tick a box for nappy cream if used and initial. Same for changes of clothes following accidents - but not if the child changes themself.

 

On the point about schools, we had a child with SEN going to school and still in nappies a couple of years ago, and the school were told in no uncertain terms by the SEN Caseworker that there was no reason they shouldn't do it and they had to meet the needs of the child.

[PenelopeBaxter]

I work in a school nursery/reception with 5 SEN children and we change them whenever they have an accident, they are human beings and its my job to make sure they get the care and love they deserve. We never ever call a parent to come and change them, I know before our team of 3 in the nursery and team of 6 in reception the other staff did but we don't.

 

Surely as TA's/Nursery Nurses this is part of our jobs for caring and nurturing. it makes me sad to think its not the case everywhere.

[lsp]

Well said penelope. Thankyou and welcome to the forum!

[narnia]

Ok, update: apparently, the school has made the decision that unless there is a diagnosed special need, or medical issue, they will NOT accept any child into the school who is still in nappies as 'they do not have the facilities to change nappies'..................ok, so umm, how do they change the nappies of any child who DOES have identified needs?? Discrimination???? How can they say they will not accept a child?

[finleysmaid]

perhaps you would like to print this out and pass it to them....or even better maybe to the parents to argue!!!!

 

http://www.eric.org.uk/Schools/Toilet_Training

[Rafa]

So if their Policies and Procedures states that - and it should - how come Ofsted does'nt jump on them for it?!!

 

Seems to me that the eyfs statutory requirements do not apply in schools......something needs changing - not just the children!!

[narnia]

THANK YOU Finlaysmaid........................I will pass this on

[Cait]

Good one, Finleysmaid! That answers all the questions, doesn't it!

 

Edit to say, perhaps the disposable nappies for older children shouldn't be 'ever dry', and then children would understand when they are wet?

Edited May 9, 2016 by Cait